Did the BCS get it right?
12-06-2011, 06:59 PM
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Did the BCS get it right? To me, it is a double edged sword. I do think that Bama is better then the Pokes. But Bama didn't even win their division of their conference. But Okie State won their Conference, and absolutely man handled OU. I think that Okie State should have gotten the nod to play for the Title. And this time, the computers ranked OSU at 2 and Bama at 3. And it was the human polls that made the rematch happen.
And to quote a pretty good SEC Football coach:
"If a football program has not either played in the conference championship or won their conference championship, then they have not earned nor do they deserve to play in the BCS championship game." - Nick Saban (2003)
I know I will most certainly not be watching the BCS Title game this year.
And to quote a pretty good SEC Football coach:
"If a football program has not either played in the conference championship or won their conference championship, then they have not earned nor do they deserve to play in the BCS championship game." - Nick Saban (2003)
I know I will most certainly not be watching the BCS Title game this year.
12-06-2011, 08:07 PM
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To me, it is a double edged sword. I do think that Bama is better then the Pokes. But Bama didn't even win their division of their conference. But Okie State won their Conference, and absolutely man handled OU. I think that Okie State should have gotten the nod to play for the Title. And this time, the computers ranked OSU at 2 and Bama at 3. And it was the human polls that made the rematch happen.
And to quote a pretty good SEC Football coach:
"If a football program has not either played in the conference championship or won their conference championship, then they have not earned nor do they deserve to play in the BCS championship game." - Nick
Saban (2003)
I know I will most certainly not be watching the BCS Title game this year.
And to quote a pretty good SEC Football coach:
"If a football program has not either played in the conference championship or won their conference championship, then they have not earned nor do they deserve to play in the BCS championship game." - Nick
Saban (2003)
I know I will most certainly not be watching the BCS Title game this year.
It sucks that Bama is getting a rematch.. they had their shot and lost. OSU should be playing but what hurt their chances was losing to unranked Iowa State team.
12-06-2011, 08:08 PM
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OSU did not deserve the game. Bama and LSU are the two best teams. To penalize Bama because their one loss was to the number one team, by three points in overtime, would be stupid. It isn't their fault/problem that they play in the same conference, in the same division, and play LSU every year.
Im not huge on the BCS but they got it right this time. Its a freakish and unusual situation, yes, but it was the right call.
Im not huge on the BCS but they got it right this time. Its a freakish and unusual situation, yes, but it was the right call.
12-06-2011, 08:09 PM
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They lost to Iowa State, nobody who is capable of losing to Iowa State deserves a shot at a championship. They got it right as far as the two best teams, they just went about it the wrong way....we need a playoff!
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12-06-2011, 10:17 PM
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OSU did not deserve the game. Bama and LSU are the two best teams. To penalize Bama because their one loss was to the number one team, by three points in overtime, would be stupid. It isn't their fault/problem that they play in the same conference, in the same division, and play LSU every year.
Im not huge on the BCS but they got it right this time. Its a freakish and unusual situation, yes, but it was the right call.
Im not huge on the BCS but they got it right this time. Its a freakish and unusual situation, yes, but it was the right call.
12-07-2011, 01:37 AM
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I live in OK and I even think they got it right. Bama barely lost to LSU in OT in a game where they were more dominate and OSU had their chance all they had to do was win out but instead lost to unranked Iowa State, think that's enough said right there. What's fucked up is Gundy doesn't get a vote, yet Saban gets to vote Stanford #3 and OSU #4. http://www.businessinsider.com/saban...s-poll-2011-12
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12-07-2011, 06:08 AM
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I think the BCS got it right, but I think they could have gotten it more right by giving the nod to OSU.
The argument FOR Bama is that their only loss was to LSU in OT, while OSU's loss was to unranked Iowa State. Bonehead move by OSU.
The argument for OSU: By losing to LSU, Bama lost their chance to win their conference. I've never liked the idea that a team that didn't win its conference could play for the championship. Bama had their shot and they blew it. Give someone else a chance.
It should also be noted that Bama lost AT HOME. The Sugar Bowl is hardly going to be a neutral field.
Besides, if Bama wins, they'll have split their games with LSU this year, leaving just a hint of doubt as to who really is the best team. Again.
Stupid system.
-Mike
The argument FOR Bama is that their only loss was to LSU in OT, while OSU's loss was to unranked Iowa State. Bonehead move by OSU.
The argument for OSU: By losing to LSU, Bama lost their chance to win their conference. I've never liked the idea that a team that didn't win its conference could play for the championship. Bama had their shot and they blew it. Give someone else a chance.
It should also be noted that Bama lost AT HOME. The Sugar Bowl is hardly going to be a neutral field.
Besides, if Bama wins, they'll have split their games with LSU this year, leaving just a hint of doubt as to who really is the best team. Again.
Stupid system.
-Mike
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12-07-2011, 08:15 AM
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4 team playoff would be just as gay as the BCS. If your gonna have a play off have some teams in it so perhaps we can have a "cinderella" team just like the Big dance always does. I think a 16 team playoff would rock, still allow most of the bowls that make money host a bowl and would only add 3 weeks, just drop a pre season. Do we really need to keep playing those gay *** Div 1 AA teams?
12-07-2011, 11:37 AM
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Meh - I think they were going to get it wrong no matter what. Either you put OKSt in with the tougher SOS but the worse loss, or you put Bama in who didn't win it's division or conference and lost at home to their opponent.
Nobody will ever be 100% happy with the BCS and even playoffs will have arguments (who gets that last spot and why so-and-so shouldn't have been left out).
Nobody will ever be 100% happy with the BCS and even playoffs will have arguments (who gets that last spot and why so-and-so shouldn't have been left out).
12-07-2011, 01:35 PM
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As it stands today, an 8-team playoff would look like this:
LSU (1) vs. Kansas State (8)
Alabama (2) vs. Boise State (7)
Oklahoma State (3) vs. Arkansas (6)
Stanford (4) vs. Oregon (5)
Outside looking in would be South Carolina and Wisconsin. In the above matchups, you would get to see three good offenses (KSU, OSU, BSU) go up against SEC defenses. You get a conference rivalry in the 4/5 matchup.
Even if you go by the chalk, the second round would be:
LSU vs. Stanford
Alabama vs. Oklahoma State
You might still end up with LSU vs. Bama for the title game, but at least there would be no question as to who earned their shot.
BCS apologists claim a playoff would extend the season too much, and increase the risk of injuries. Fact is, we're about three weeks away from any bowl games that matter. Give everyone a week or two off, then start the playoffs. The championship game would still be around the same time in early January, but we would get to actually SEE football, rather than talk, postulate and guess as to what's going to happen.
-Mike
12-07-2011, 08:10 PM
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With the current landscape at most you could change it to a small playoff bracket, while still using BCS equations to figure out the rankings.there are way to many inconsistencies in the way of conferences, schedules, and FBS scheduled teams to do a full playoff.
I kind of like the idea of an 8 team playoff with BCS-like calculations. But it can't be done fairly with unbalanced conferences, teams having weak schedules, ect. Without a major overhaul of things there will be more "chaos" than there is now.
Apparently the BCS is considering adding the long debated +1 game. Meaning, after the BCS bowls are played they play one more game with the two most deserving teams. Lind of interesting.
I kind of like the idea of an 8 team playoff with BCS-like calculations. But it can't be done fairly with unbalanced conferences, teams having weak schedules, ect. Without a major overhaul of things there will be more "chaos" than there is now.
Apparently the BCS is considering adding the long debated +1 game. Meaning, after the BCS bowls are played they play one more game with the two most deserving teams. Lind of interesting.
12-07-2011, 10:51 PM
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They got it right because bama did barely lose to LSU. I would rather watch LSU and OSU play for the title though. Bama doesn't deserve it if they win, they didn't play anybody worth a damn compared to LSU. And got beat at home by LSU.