Who still has faith in Toyota?
02-20-2010, 10:07 PM
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Who still has faith in Toyota? I'm sure you have all heard and seen the news on Toyota's recalls and how their image of quality and reliability have been shaken. I was never really that big of a fan to begin with, but anyone who was, do you still have faith in them? Do you own one of the 8,500,000,000 Toyota's that have been recalled? Would you buy one after they have been "fixed"? I just wanted to chime in and get everyone's opinion on this. I have seen a lot about it, but no one seems to be talking about it.
02-20-2010, 10:14 PM
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Finally my chance to vent....
I needed a good mpg car that was fairly big cuz my work is 45 miles away. I wanted a Malibu over the camry but I knew resale value was better on the camry. So I bought one. Now the Malibu's resale value is $1000 over the camry. I hate Toyota. I hate FWD and now I hate myself!!!
I needed a good mpg car that was fairly big cuz my work is 45 miles away. I wanted a Malibu over the camry but I knew resale value was better on the camry. So I bought one. Now the Malibu's resale value is $1000 over the camry. I hate Toyota. I hate FWD and now I hate myself!!!
02-21-2010, 02:53 AM
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Once the news finds something else to report no one will care about this recall. It sucks for the ones who lost family members but Toyota is not the first to sell a car with a deadly flaw. Ford had cars that caught fire in people's garages and GM had loose control arm nuts on Vetts. If it wasn't for the runflat tires people could of died. I had to replace several Vett rims that were cut in half by the lower control arm. Then they had the ejector roofs that would come off on the highway turning a hard top into a targa top. All car companies have recalls. This one is just being hyped up to put fear in the public. News writers need fear, Happiness dosen't sell.
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I'm sure you have all heard and seen the news on Toyota's recalls and how their image of quality and reliability have been shaken. I was never really that big of a fan to begin with, but anyone who was, do you still have faith in them? Do you own one of the 8,500,000,000 Toyota's that have been recalled? Would you buy one after they have been "fixed"? I just wanted to chime in and get everyone's opinion on this. I have seen a lot about it, but no one seems to be talking about it.
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02-21-2010, 07:24 AM
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For the last 3 years I have been telling people Toyota quality is slipping and caught a lot hell about it. They built great stuff in the 90's and have been living on there name for years. The company is in BIG trouble now and massive rebates are the only way to get people back into there dealership.
Odumbo is stoked because this is a HUGE opportunity to take care of all the union favors that are owed.
Besides Corvette which I think might be in trouble since sales in the tank I still dont see anything from GM that is a must have!
Odumbo is stoked because this is a HUGE opportunity to take care of all the union favors that are owed.
Besides Corvette which I think might be in trouble since sales in the tank I still dont see anything from GM that is a must have!
02-21-2010, 09:56 AM
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Pretty much sums it up. I would buy a Toyota if needed a new car
Once the news finds something else to report no one will care about this recall. It sucks for the ones who lost family members but Toyota is not the first to sell a car with a deadly flaw. Ford had cars that caught fire in people's garages and GM had loose control arm nuts on Vetts. If it wasn't for the runflat tires people could of died. I had to replace several Vett rims that were cut in half by the lower control arm. Then they had the ejector roofs that would come off on the highway turning a hard top into a targa top. All car companies have recalls. This one is just being hyped up to put fear in the public. News writers need fear, Happiness dosen't sell.
02-21-2010, 10:05 AM
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Once the news finds something else to report no one will care about this recall. It sucks for the ones who lost family members but Toyota is not the first to sell a car with a deadly flaw. Ford had cars that caught fire in people's garages and GM had loose control arm nuts on Vetts. If it wasn't for the runflat tires people could of died. I had to replace several Vett rims that were cut in half by the lower control arm. Then they had the ejector roofs that would come off on the highway turning a hard top into a targa top. All car companies have recalls. This one is just being hyped up to put fear in the public. News writers need fear, Happiness dosen't sell.
02-21-2010, 10:10 AM
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Finally my chance to vent....
I needed a good mpg car that was fairly big cuz my work is 45 miles away. I wanted a Malibu over the camry but I knew resale value was better on the camry. So I bought one. Now the Malibu's resale value is $1000 over the camry. I hate Toyota. I hate FWD and now I hate myself!!!
I needed a good mpg car that was fairly big cuz my work is 45 miles away. I wanted a Malibu over the camry but I knew resale value was better on the camry. So I bought one. Now the Malibu's resale value is $1000 over the camry. I hate Toyota. I hate FWD and now I hate myself!!!
02-21-2010, 10:23 AM
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Toyota wanted to beat out GM and be #1 and were warned that quality could suffer. This could be a result of that goal. It's tuff being on top, you have the biggest bullseye.
I've worked for a company that wanted to be #1 in it's field at all costs and quality suffered but the goal was met reguardless in the short term but in the long run the owner lost both his companies as a result.....meaning he had to sell.
I've worked for a company that wanted to be #1 in it's field at all costs and quality suffered but the goal was met reguardless in the short term but in the long run the owner lost both his companies as a result.....meaning he had to sell.
02-21-2010, 10:34 AM
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prius will always be gay... and the fact that the president of toyota didn't want to come to the u.s. seems like bad publicity on his part... he even said he wasn't coming that his people could take care of it... come on now it might not bring the people that died back but at least show a little dignity and fly your *** over on your private jet and say "sorry" or we are fixing the problem
02-21-2010, 01:57 PM
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Yea I have kinda noticed that Toyota has been kinda going downhill since 2000, but a lot of people have disagreed, believing that Toyota still builds cars like they did in the 80's and 90's.
One thing that you might want to thing about: Whenever a car company, import or domestic, has a car comercial, they always say that thier car is better, in some way, than either Toyota, Honda, or Nissan. They never mention Ford or GM. EVer notice that? I think that is because Ford and GM are on the rise again, and there really isn't anything better than those two. I may nt be a Ford guy, but they are making some REALLY good stuff these days. GM is also making REALLY good stuff as well.
For example: The Cobalt SS is faster than an STi and is $10k cheaper. For the price of a Tundra I-Force, you can have a Duramax. For the price of a fully loaded Tacoma, you can have a Colorado SS, which has leather and the 5.3L. AND we have the Volt coming out which will absolutley BLOW the Pruis out of the water!!
One thing that you might want to thing about: Whenever a car company, import or domestic, has a car comercial, they always say that thier car is better, in some way, than either Toyota, Honda, or Nissan. They never mention Ford or GM. EVer notice that? I think that is because Ford and GM are on the rise again, and there really isn't anything better than those two. I may nt be a Ford guy, but they are making some REALLY good stuff these days. GM is also making REALLY good stuff as well.
For example: The Cobalt SS is faster than an STi and is $10k cheaper. For the price of a Tundra I-Force, you can have a Duramax. For the price of a fully loaded Tacoma, you can have a Colorado SS, which has leather and the 5.3L. AND we have the Volt coming out which will absolutley BLOW the Pruis out of the water!!
02-21-2010, 03:42 PM
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Still got faith in my 99 tacoma. This lil truck is a soldier for the stuff its been through and the way ive been beaten on it..lol. 240kmi and going going strong only thing replaced has been i think the starter.. But, I don't know about the about the newer cars and trucks they are producing considering the huge recalls.. I'd probably consider Honda over Toyota if I were looking for a fuel saver..
02-21-2010, 03:57 PM
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Ford and GM have a lot of great fuel savers for you too! the Cobalt gets 37 mpg hwy. Some have stated they get over 40 mpg! The Ford focus can get up to 35 mpg hwy. The Chevy Malibu is offered in a Hybrid and soon the Chevy Volt will be out as well as the new Ford Fiesta that is rated at 30 mpg city and 40 mpg hwy.
Honda's overratted civic cant compete with that.
Honda's overratted civic cant compete with that.
02-21-2010, 05:19 PM
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**** recently, I've been suffering the slings and arrows of know-nothing's who snubbed me for driving "crappy American cars", for a good 20+ years now. This is payback and I'm going to revel in every bit of it.
And I was about to buy a RAV4. Not because it was "a solid Japanese car and American cars suck", but because it was the best car I could get for the $$$ (re: cheaper than domestics), with the best capacity in class.
Looks like it's a Mazda CX7 or GMC Terrain for me, now.
Hopefully, the playing field can level and people can judge the actual cars versus some bullshit engrained prejudices.
And I was about to buy a RAV4. Not because it was "a solid Japanese car and American cars suck", but because it was the best car I could get for the $$$ (re: cheaper than domestics), with the best capacity in class.
Looks like it's a Mazda CX7 or GMC Terrain for me, now.
Hopefully, the playing field can level and people can judge the actual cars versus some bullshit engrained prejudices.
02-21-2010, 06:31 PM
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**** recently, I've been suffering the slings and arrows of know-nothing's who snubbed me for driving "crappy American cars", for a good 20+ years now. This is payback and I'm going to revel in every bit of it.
And I was about to buy a RAV4. Not because it was "a solid Japanese car and American cars suck", but because it was the best car I could get for the $$$ (re: cheaper than domestics), with the best capacity in class.
Looks like it's a Mazda CX7 or GMC Terrain for me, now.
Hopefully, the playing field can level and people can judge the actual cars versus some bullshit engrained prejudices.
And I was about to buy a RAV4. Not because it was "a solid Japanese car and American cars suck", but because it was the best car I could get for the $$$ (re: cheaper than domestics), with the best capacity in class.
Looks like it's a Mazda CX7 or GMC Terrain for me, now.
Hopefully, the playing field can level and people can judge the actual cars versus some bullshit engrained prejudices.
02-21-2010, 06:42 PM
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All I have to say is that I love the **** storm that toyota is in. Every time I see one on the road I start yelling "get out of its way it might kill you!" I grew up around Ford and Honda. Hate honda, but I do respect fords trucks. The cars not so much since they are all mazda anyway. OK rant over.