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Old 05-05-2010, 06:23 PM
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Whats the highest HP NA car to pass CA emissions? I am thinking about changing my setup but just trying to figure out if its even worth trying a high HP NA setup that can pass emissions.
With racegas getting less and less accepted in CA I know for sure I am going to a pump gas setup but I just need to know whether or not its worth trying to pass or just deal with it when I get pulled over?
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My 04 Silverado SS passed with ease and made 522 AWHP ...Basically was a Radix'd LQ9 with a small cam and ported 317 heads etc.I had LT headers with hf cats ...My tuner tweaked it a little and I ran a 195* tstat
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Race gas is not legal for street use in CA. So you wouldnt pass smog. And the Fbody v8 is illegal by sound (db lvl ) as well - so Im not sure what you are asking , as - just about everything is illegal in CA. Even the things that are CARB legal arent street legal...
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I dont think its so much the number as it is the set-up. You could do a TT set-up off E85 and get it qualified as a clean fuel conversion E85 puts down so MEAN numbers in a FI set-up.

Also with a turbo set-up the boost controller and HP tuners can be a VERY useful thing when smog time rolls around. Turn down the boost to VERY little and adjust the tune. Then after you pass, just turn up the whick again
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I'd like to know too, and a power adder is not something I have in mind...
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i have had a few blower cars in the 550rwhp range with stock manifolds/cats and small camshafts....
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I think CMS put a 408 in an SS a while back with a baby cam and all smog equipment was retained. Have yet to hear if it passed a sniffer
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Originally Posted by dyls1
I think CMS put a 408 in an SS a while back with a baby cam and all smog equipment was retained. Have yet to hear if it passed a sniffer


This is more along the lines of what I was thinking. I am thinking a big cube, pump gas motor w/ all the smog items in place. How much power can be made?
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What about doing a supercharger on a new Z06 but leaving everything else stock including the whole exhaust system but one change. Increase the cubes to 454.
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Originally Posted by KCFormula
This is more along the lines of what I was thinking. I am thinking a big cube, pump gas motor w/ all the smog items in place. How much power can be made?
a 427 with smallish cam and ls7 heads..... they dont need a large cam to make great power... the only problem is getting a "good" manifold or header on it and still being legal
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Originally Posted by djsanchez2
I dont think its so much the number as it is the set-up. You could do a TT set-up off E85 and get it qualified as a clean fuel conversion E85 puts down so MEAN numbers in a FI set-up.

Also with a turbo set-up the boost controller and HP tuners can be a VERY useful thing when smog time rolls around. Turn down the boost to VERY little and adjust the tune. Then after you pass, just turn up the whick again
If you have blow off valves you have to "cap them off" some how as you cannot 'vent to atmosphere'
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Originally Posted by SIK02SS
If you have blow off valves you have to "cap them off" some how as you cannot 'vent to atmosphere'
You can just get an enclosed bypass valve and recirculate it to the Turbo inlet.
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Originally Posted by ZexGX
I'd like to know too, and a power adder is not something I have in mind...
Why not?

A smog legal, NA build (i.e. shorty headers, LS6 heads, 224 cam, etc) is still going to net you under 400 rwhp. But if you bolted on some 317 heads, LS6 cam, shorty headers, and a P1SC or D1SC, you could make over 500rwhp on a moderate amount of boost and still pass smog.
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So basically I'm not going to make 500rwhp through stock manifolds and cats?
I guess if I was going to go that route it would be financially smarter to use a LS7 longblock with stock emissions, rather than try and build an emissions friendly stroker (reinvent the wheel)?
If I am not going to reach my goal I would rather just build an all out NA motor again, or just freshen up the motor that is in the car w/ pump gas pistons.
I am doing the forced induction thing in my Mustang and it is turning out to be a headache. I'd rather keep my Fbody NA. I have always talked about doing a vette w/ a big single (100mm+) one day but this mustang build has got me rethinking that one.
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Originally Posted by ss.slp.ls1
You can just get an enclosed bypass valve and recirculate it to the Turbo inlet.

Or tape around the BoV ports
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Originally Posted by KCFormula
So basically I'm not going to make 500rwhp through stock manifolds and cats?
I guess if I was going to go that route it would be financially smarter to use a LS7 longblock with stock emissions, rather than try and build an emissions friendly stroker (reinvent the wheel)?
If I am not going to reach my goal I would rather just build an all out NA motor again, or just freshen up the motor that is in the car w/ pump gas pistons.
I am doing the forced induction thing in my Mustang and it is turning out to be a headache. I'd rather keep my Fbody NA. I have always talked about doing a vette w/ a big single (100mm+) one day but this mustang build has got me rethinking that one.
i dont know if you can fit factory ls7 manifolds on the f-body (doubt it) but they are very efficient , i have tuned a few c6 z06's with small camshafts that would pass the sniffer.... while still making about 500-515 rear wheel horse.
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i would think your best bet would be a vette with a sts tt kit. I think there is a guy on here making 700rwhp with that kit on his c5 zo6 on pump and meth. He might have different turbos though.
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Originally Posted by BuffJoeyD
Race gas is not legal for street use in CA. So you wouldnt pass smog. And the Fbody v8 is illegal by sound (db lvl ) as well - so Im not sure what you are asking , as - just about everything is illegal in CA. Even the things that are CARB legal arent street legal...
Huh? Fbodys are not all over 95dBs so I'm not sure what you mean by Fbody v8s being to loud. Even with full bolt ons exceeding that numbers is far fetched. And if its carb legal its street legal in California. Period.
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^^
I think he was being sarcastic being that CA regulations are so strict.
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Originally Posted by djsanchez2
I dont think its so much the number as it is the set-up. You could do a TT set-up off E85 and get it qualified as a clean fuel conversion E85 puts down so MEAN numbers in a FI set-up.

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