JoseLsGun

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will do that this coming season before heads and cam

MauriSSio

try to get through the first 60ft as fast as you can without spinning the tires and raise the shift point closer to 6k. As far as everybody saying what you should run, or could run on street tires, most of the time thats BS. Not all tracks are prepped equally or even prepped at all. 2.1-2.2 60' time seems to be OK for a shitty unprepped track. Of course you want to shoot for better than that but dont go expecting what people post (usually their best) on the internet at different tracks and think thats normal.

on street tires i would realistically expect you to run 13.4-13.2 with that 106mph trap speed. There are people that can hit 12's with it, but that requires help in other places.

murphinator

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I would agree with you if he were trapping 106 but he is close to 109 heck my fwd buick daily driver has run 13.1 on a 109 trap and fwd is a lot harder to hook up since the weight is transferring off the driven wheels instead of onto the driven wheels.


Remember this thread is titled "14.0 @108.63 what am I capable of ?" he is capable of 12's with that trap , he will need tires to get there but is capable of 12's.

anheuserbusch08

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hypertech is garbage/

WarShrike

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Getting the hole-shot by a FWD car means you need better tire!

Build a secondary engine on a stand, means you'll be able to take your time and get the parts you need without rushing to get it done. There were so many things I would have done differently on my own engine build if I'd have had a secondary motor to just do it all in my own time instead of reaching some type of deadline.

MauriSSio

there are people that have touched 11's with that low of trap speed, why not just say hes capable of 11's then??

his original POST says he trapped 106 so i was going by that. My post was more realistic and directed as the car sits. not throwing more money at it towards tires.

again as far as your buick goes, that cant really be used as a direct comparison if it wasnt at the same track or similar conditions. we dont know the level of prep or lack of traction available at OP's track.

murphinator

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ok assuming he named the thread with 108.63 in error and going by the first post , I went back and see he did say 106 you are correct on that again personal experience rather than internet guessing I had a small block nova that ran 12.5 on a 106 trap.

Maybe he could borrow a pair of dr's for a pass that way he wouldnt be spending $$ I have loaned mine out at the track before to help people realize their potential . 2.6 60 foot times shouldnt happen on any tire but thats what he got and that is why his et was so terrible . I imagine he started this thread in hopes of getting input/ideas to improve his situation.How about removing the front sway bar , plenty of advice we can give to help him out.

I dont like to argue but just cant agree that a car trapping that well should be stuck in the 13's and I dont see many other people in this thread saying he should only be capable of 13's with that trap.

I respect you having your own opinion and agree if he doesnt do aything to improve his traction he will likely be stuck in the 13's thats about as close to agreement as we can come I guess.

Hypertech

Obviously the Hypertech Programmer is working look at his trap speed, he needs a better 60ft time and he will be impressed.

redbird555

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guessing by your user name that you work for hypertech? the hypertechs for these cars just raise timing and pose a threat to the motors the op would probably pick up even more with a decent tuner and not risk damage to the engine...

djfury05

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Hypertech is garbage.. plain and simple

98cobrakiller

your car will run mid 13s. the issue is your 60' ft stock autos with a good driver have 1.90 or 2.00 60 fts. 6 speed cars vary on driver. the power these cars make on street tires when the light turns you cant just floor it cause it will spin and go no where fast. with my 98 auto i ran 13.3 at 105.97. when you leave the light slowly accelerate to wot. until you get drag radials you really cant dump into it. i found out my first pass i lite the tires up half way down the track looked cool but only ran a 14.5

senicalj4579

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OP heres some facts that might help figure what your car is capable of.

My car with bolt ons, stock stall, 3.23, and street tires...
13.197 @ 106.93 with 2.092 60' in 2265 da.

Same car...
13.087 @ 106.87 with 2.018 60' in 2062 da.

Addition off drag radials and good da...
12.740 @ 109.22 with 1.963 60' in -249 da.

Same car in cold da...
12.638 @ 110.04 with 1.958 60' in -1245 da.

And thats all the saved data I have when my car was bolt on only, full weight, and stock stall. Also, the car did not have a good tune.

Things that come to mind for you...
The only time you should go to the track with street tires is when you want to have fun, not to expect a great 60'.
Those 4.10s are just silly on top of street tires lol.
Get yourself some good drs and report back

98cobrakiller

yeah 4.10s are overkill in a street car especially a dd street car. on street tires with that gear is going to spin. i would do a few things that are cheap i did to my car that helped alot. torque arm lcas and lca relocation brackets. if your going to run on street tires drop the air pressure to 22-25 psi will help, or get a good set of drag radials. if you looking for a cheaper set the nittos work great. id stay away from the bfgs they suck in wet conditions. but mickey thompson or hoosier are the best you can buy but are 200 plus a tire. you can get nittos from discount tire direct heat cycled for 170 per tire

senicalj4579

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Why is this in the 12 sec club?

murphinator

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he answered his own question of what he is capable of as soon as he posted lol

senicalj4579

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Well shoot, I guess we all can post in the single digit club because we are all capable of that with the right mods

Coxter454

U could always rebuild what u got and freshn it up put a mild cam in it trash the old exhaust set up and buy a set of headers. Depending on suspension u could order a set of caltracs that will help u hook up and they are cheap. And u could port and polish the heads . Just remember spinning ain't winning and u can make all the power u want but it won't do u any good if u can't hook up

98cobrakiller

its not the motor his trap speed is 108 same as mine and i have just longtubes lid and tune. suspesion and tires is the way to go i ran a 12.7 at 108 with drag radials and full suspension.

98cobrakiller

also on street tires drive around the water and warm up the tires. dont go through the water. street tires are designed to push water away from the tire and it throws it up in the fender well and when you pull up to the line it drips back onto the tires making them spin when you leave. also drop the air pressure between 25 to 30psi. if you want more help pm me. everyone on here swears you need 1000hp to make quick times and its simply not true. ive raced for years and a car that can but the power down will be the victor. cause spinning aint winning

InsaneTransAm

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best time was 13.1 this was my first practice run traction is still my issue but its way better now ( BTW IS BLACK NOW)