Yea good catch, I was thinking of Avgas, but JetFuel also has lots of other additives so I'm guessing it's not much better for the environment. I did a thesis on this a little while so I looked it up so I get it right, this time.

A 747 burns about 3,000 gallons of jet fuel on takeoff alone. So if your car gets 25 miles to a gallon and you took the same amount of gas used in takeoff, you could theoretically drive your car around the widest part of the earth 3 times.

That's just to put it in perspective, a car without cats isn't going to make the world get any warmer or kill any animals that get too close to it. It'll just be loud and raspy

 

What state are you going to register it with that doesn't require at least a visual emissions inspection?

Yea, yea I mixed up my Avgas and Jet Fuel, but the fuel consumption is right.

 

It's a 25+ year old rule. I called the VA DEQ (Department of Environmental Quality) - they're the ones that enforce pertty much all aspects of vehicle emissions. The enforcement officer I spoke with told me that I needed to have all of the required emissions systems in place for my chasis year (1985) which included PCV system, charcoal canister, AIR/smog pump, and 3-way cats. No EGR was required.

However, if my vehicle is 25 years old or older, which it will be according to law on January 1, 2010, I will not be required to get an emissions inspection.

In Fairfax County, everyone needs a safety inspection sticker. When you register your vehicle, you get your license plate. No registration, no license plate.

To get and keep your vehicle registered in Fairfax County, you also need to get an emissions inspection done. This includes a visual inspection, dyno/sniffer test, and I think they plug into your OBD system as well. However, if your car is 25 years old or older, there is no emissions inspection required to get or keep your registration. So all aspects of the emissions inspections above are applicable to simply register your car and get plates - that's it. If your car is 25+ years old, you do not need an emissions inspection to get your car registered.

There is no separate emissions sticker next to your inspection sticker.

This is just the law as I understand it - do not rely on it. Contact the DEQ if you have questions and they will let you speak with an enforcement officer. (DISCLAIMER!)

 

i know it polutes more, however from a legal standpoint if your car came with one its a huge ticket to not have one. They do Checkpoints out here in Jersey, and its over $1000 if you dont have cats on the car. My friend got his mustang ticketed, and had to go to a state inspection station afterwards and have his entire car gone over. Took almost 3 hours. Not worth it for a few extra poines in my book. Im not sure what they do for older/custom vehicles.

 

First off. Check your state laws. There are no emissions laws in my state and none of my cars have cats.

On my 67 chevy i have glasspacks because when they pull me over i point under the car and say muffler mother F***** try writing me a ticket. SInce its older than 25 years.



Dont listen to the hippie bull. Global warming is a myth straight from the *** of the political party that regulates science.

The globe is warming due to fluctuations in the earths magentic field which anyone would be able to understand if you were a sceintist who was aware both of the climate and the magnetic force. The thing you dont hear is that most of the guys saying its from your tailpipe really dont have any knowledge or background into the things that affect the climate.

Magnetic Force just the same as an force relies on field strenght and distance and as the strenght is decreasing the force is gone down drastically. Therefore the solar currents and debris are less affected and are entering the earths atmosphere at a greater rate heating up the planet which in turn traps gasses such as CO2 but no one says that because they dont understand. As the climate warms up its ability to release things out of the atmosphere is also hindered more.


Also for the government that likes to point fingers at car companies is bullsh** because a recent study was done on how much pollution google's server farms release. They have to cool their servers in the farms to keep them functional well in their strike of genius they decided to put these farms in reno nevada and are trying to aircondition giant heatsinks in the deseret. Well the power consumption is so high that the study showed google releases more pollutants in the form of waste for coal power plants than all commercial aircraft and consumer automobiles combined. Yet our cars are the problems????

Cats clean up some stuff but now a days emissions are so low anyway it doesnt matter because the engine fueling and combustion process is so well controlled they really are more useful in older cars that really aren't tuned well.

Long answer short screw cats and the people the blame them for the environment issue.

 

Word, Al Gore needs to come off his peace pipe and STFU. Don't believe everything a politicial says, ESPECIALLY the guy in my avatar.

 

Now that I think about it, my brother has a 70 Nova with a 350 and no cats. It is VERY raspy. I think it fits his car, but not mine.

 

I'm glad people brought up the jets, boats, planes, cow methane, and etc (I didn't know about google, nice catch). Those are always my arguments against idiots who say something about my car and the environment, or running catless (which I don't. Yet.).

Also, while not entirely related, a Prius is worse for the environment than a Hummer H2. See here.

http://clubs.ccsu.edu/Recorder/edito...asp?NewsID=188

Point is, cars are pretty much inconsequential in the whole thing. And if you're making any significant amount of power, the cats will rob some of it. So the decision to run or not run them shouldn't be made based on the environment anyways.

 

I'm running cats for one reason, sound. With the ORY it sounded mean and LOUD as hell! It was pure awesomeness for about month or two, but with my social life/work schedule keeping me out till 3 am I was bothering some of the neighbors I actually care about. Also, the tone of my exhaust sounds SOOOOOOOOO much better. Before it sounded like some crazy loud pickup truck, now it actually sounds like a muscle car, if that makes any sense.

 

Ya I think thats so funny. The people that defend toyota and say they are the best thing since sliced bread and waste money on a prius to be environmentally friendly.

Sorry to say buddy but your prius takes so much more energy to create in the batteries and everything and by the time you dispose of the battery its significantly worse than an H2.

 

That is an awesome article - I now wonder why those guys get to use the HOV lanes anytime they want.

The one thing that article does not address is the development and widespread acceptance of the new technology - steps that take us away from gasoline and dependance of foreign oil.

Sometimes you have to take two steps backwards to take 3 steps ahead. I guess a good example would be early fuel injection - it was expensive, performed adequately, and was a pain to work on... but now fuel injected cars are better than carb'd cars in pretty much every way.

I wish that article in the Prius could get a little more attention. It makes some very good points and sheds a lot of light on how "green" the Prius really is.

 

Very interesting reading and somehow it doesn't surprise me a bit to hear how a Prius is worse for the environment than a Hummer. I have gotten so used to hearing the liberals and environmentalists BS lately it's no wonder how sheeple believe it all.

 

Every time you crank a car w/o a cat. a child dies in Budapest.

 

Between volcanoes,methane eruptions in the ocean and Yellowstone I don't think my car counts much.

 

100% right

 

Yobama's European vacation will leave a bigger carbon footprint than all of us put together for the rest of our lives. The so-called environmentalist don't give a rat's *** about the environment.

 

Easy there buddy... im not looking to start an argument or anything but global warming is far from a myth. Your explanation shows how little you really understand. Again not trying to be standoffish but you shouldnt spread false information.

 

I run cats and am happy I do. But I also recycle so that must make me extra

I think ls sound alot better with cats, and power loss is negligible

 

Anybody that actually believes in this global warming scam might be stupid enough to vote for yobama. Why don't you fools just send owl gore your paychecks every week.

 

If you look at the weather and temp history of the earth man has to be really exhalting himself up to think he has much to do with any change that may come about.The temp on Mars is also on the rise and I doubt that we have much to do with that either.