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Old Oct 29, 2006 | 09:03 PM
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because i standalone can control each injector seperatly, could u make it so half wont spray fuel at certain times, therefore making it like the new multidisplacement HEMIs etc? seems like it would work
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Old Oct 29, 2006 | 09:08 PM
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you'd still have the cylinders trying to compress the air which would be an insane amount of wasted power. The DOD motors also have things that change in the valvetrain to keep the valves open (i think, someone correct me if i'm wrong).
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Old Oct 29, 2006 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by njn63
you'd still have the cylinders trying to compress the air which would be an insane amount of wasted power. The DOD motors also have things that change in the valvetrain to keep the valves open (i think, someone correct me if i'm wrong).
They have hydraulically unlocking lifters that stay closed during DOD opperation. I just went through training on that sytem a couple months ago, very elloborate oiling and control system.

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Originally Posted by GOaT Cheese
They have hydraulically unlocking lifters that stay closed during DOD opperation. I just went through training on that sytem a couple months ago, very elloborate oiling and control system.
This way, all of the effort the engine puts into compressing the air in the cylinder is returned on the down stroke. Think of it as having an air spring inside the cylinder.
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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Kenova
This way, all of the effort the engine puts into compressing the air in the cylinder is returned on the down stroke. Think of it as having an air spring inside the cylinder.
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interesting, i was trying to figure out why that was a good idea but that's a good way of putting it.
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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 04:00 AM
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The newer GM E40 computer runs DoD on a few vehicles. It is pretty much the same computer as in the GTOs, Trailblazer SS, C6 Vette... except it is disabled from the factory in those vehicles. They are going to start using it on more vehicles in the near future.

The mechanical system of DoD is fairly simple. Just ground 4 solenoids and kill 4 injectors and you are running on 4 cylinders. However the timing that goes into activating it is somewhat complex.

Scroll about a 1/3 of the way down this page.
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Wouldn't this technology cause decreased life of the springs and lifters by keeping constant pressure on them and holding them closed for extended periods of time? Or am I misunderstanding this?
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Originally Posted by BigMikeGXP
The newer GM E40 computer runs DoD on a few vehicles. It is pretty much the same computer as in the GTOs, Trailblazer SS, C6 Vette... except it is disabled from the factory in those vehicles. They are going to start using it on more vehicles in the near future.

The mechanical system of DoD is fairly simple. Just ground 4 solenoids and kill 4 injectors and you are running on 4 cylinders. However the timing that goes into activating it is somewhat complex.

Scroll about a 1/3 of the way down this page.
you'll have to worry about your O2 sensors thinking you're ultra rich as well
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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by BigMikeGXP
The newer GM E40 computer runs DoD on a few vehicles. It is pretty much the same computer as in the GTOs, Trailblazer SS, C6 Vette... except it is disabled from the factory in those vehicles. They are going to start using it on more vehicles in the near future.

The mechanical system of DoD is fairly simple. Just ground 4 solenoids and kill 4 injectors and you are running on 4 cylinders. However the timing that goes into activating it is somewhat complex.

Scroll about a 1/3 of the way down this page.
You don't have any idea how the system works do you? The lifters on four cylinders are hydraulically deactivated so the valves don't open at all during DoD opperation. And if you were to ground the injector drivers, the injectors would stay open and fill the runners with gasoline. The injectors on the deactivated cylinders simply aren't comanded to fire during DoD.
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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by treyZ28
you'll have to worry about your O2 sensors thinking you're ultra rich as well
GM is a little smarter than that. They have the system pretty well dialed.
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by GOaT Cheese
You don't have any idea how the system works do you? The lifters on four cylinders are hydraulically deactivated so the valves don't open at all during DoD opperation. And if you were to ground the injector drivers, the injectors would stay open and fill the runners with gasoline. The injectors on the deactivated cylinders simply aren't comanded to fire during DoD.
Ummmm.... nobody said anything about grounding the 4 injectors.

The page I linked to goes into great detail how the system works.

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Wouldn't this technology cause decreased life of the springs and lifters by keeping constant pressure on them and holding them closed for extended periods of time? Or am I misunderstanding this?
There is less stress on the valvetrain components while DoD is engaged. Also the computer will go back to 8 cylinder mode for at least 1 minute if DoD is active for over 10 minutes.


Originally Posted by treyZ28
you'll have to worry about your O2 sensors thinking you're ultra rich as well
The O2 levels stay the same... They don't get skewed since the 4 cylinders are not pumping.
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by BigMikeGXP
Ummmm.... nobody said anything about grounding the 4 injectors. .
You are right, I appologize, I completely misread your post. My bad, I'm always so ready to blast people here that I see what I want some times. Next time I will make sure I read more better.
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by GOaT Cheese
You are right, I appologize, I completely misread your post. My bad, I'm always so ready to blast people here that I see what I want some times. Next time I will make sure I read more better.
I thought about blasting back... but i figured you just misread. No problem... i do the same thing on a regular basis.
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