New GM NASCAR Small Block Debuts for 2007 Season
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Does the NASCAR rule book define a required bore x stroke or is that variable by the engine builder as long as the 8 cylinder engine is not larger than the Max allowable engine size? Can the Bore x Stroke change depending on the track? It may not be much but, on some tracks they may want a little shorter or longer stroke.
I've been searching the web for the exact rules. I even tried NASCAR.com and found nothing...searched the store for the rule book even.
Does the NASCAR rule book define a required bore x stroke or is that variable by the engine builder as long as the 8 cylinder engine is not larger than the Max allowable engine size? Can the Bore x Stroke change depending on the track? It may not be much but, on some tracks they may want a little shorter or longer stroke.
I've been searching the web for the exact rules. I even tried NASCAR.com and found nothing...searched the store for the rule book even.
Last edited by Cool_Hand_Luke; 02-21-2007 at 01:42 PM.
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They have a Max bore size but I don't even know what the current one is right now? I think it is 4.185 or so? They didn't want to give the Dodge or the other bigger bore spacing guys an advantage.
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Originally Posted by Cop Car
so now they dont even have anything relatable to what a person can buy? NASCAR pulled off the impossible, they made it even worse
It seems like these days it is racing like the GT3 class and some road racing cup classes that allow people to buy 'race' like cars. But then again that is comparing apples to oranges.
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Originally Posted by Cool_Hand_Luke
Question:
Does the NASCAR rule book define a required bore x stroke or is that variable by the engine builder as long as the 8 cylinder engine is not larger than the Max allowable engine size? Can the Bore x Stroke change depending on the track? It may not be much but, on some tracks they may want a little shorter or longer stroke.
I've been searching the web for the exact rules. I even tried NASCAR.com and found nothing...searched the store for the rule book even.
Does the NASCAR rule book define a required bore x stroke or is that variable by the engine builder as long as the 8 cylinder engine is not larger than the Max allowable engine size? Can the Bore x Stroke change depending on the track? It may not be much but, on some tracks they may want a little shorter or longer stroke.
I've been searching the web for the exact rules. I even tried NASCAR.com and found nothing...searched the store for the rule book even.
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Originally Posted by Cop Car
so now they dont even have anything relatable to what a person can buy? NASCAR pulled off the impossible, they made it even worse
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Originally Posted by Steve Bryant
and the newly patented twin cam pushrod design with three valve heads and direct injection foretell the future.
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Originally Posted by RussStang
I wouldn't exactly call this engine newly patented. Didn't GM debut a concept engine exactly like you describe called the XV8 almost the better part of a decade ago?
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There are some pics at www.wegnerautomotive.com of 1 version of the R07 I'm think they are close to what is used in the Cup series
The "Nascar Spec" engine they show there is for the Nascar touring series.
No R07 shown there.
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Originally Posted by Steve Bryant
The patents, (US 6,505,589, 6,505,591 and 6,505,592 among others) were actually issued early in 2003. In the world of R&D, that isn't that long ago. I'm not familiar with the XV8, but you may be right about some of the concepts.
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http://www.acarplace.com/brands/gm/xv8-engine.html
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I auctually got so see the r07 at the race track this weekend in Atlanta it was being ran in the 33 cup car simply as an R&D Atlanta is one of the hardest tracks on engines... The motor is approved for use but nobody wants to take the chance on the new package...It's deffently a mix between a Ford Dodge and Toyota... front distributer(sp)... exhaust ports.. stuff like that but from what I have seen the Toyota is a nicer...