Thought this was a pretty cool read
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"At 9,800 rpm on the Spintron, a Pro Stock engine's valvetrain takes 126 hp to turn. "
That is pretty cool!
It is facts like this you can only get from top notch places like Reher-Morrison(SP?).
I want them to build my next motor...
That is pretty cool!
It is facts like this you can only get from top notch places like Reher-Morrison(SP?).
I want them to build my next motor...
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[QUOTE=gun5l1ng3r]"At 9,800 rpm on the Spintron, a Pro Stock engine's valvetrain takes 126 hp to turn. "
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A stock LS motor does not generate enough power to even turn a blower on a Top Fuel car. So I am not surprised by the above.
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A stock LS motor does not generate enough power to even turn a blower on a Top Fuel car. So I am not surprised by the above.
Yeah it was terrible what happend. However, I am amazed at the resolve that I have been seeing. If you get a chance check out youtube for the Penn State tribute to VT. I was really shocked!
Staging Lane
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Reher Morrison are some of the best engine builders in the country, talk about Advanced Performance Tech. Anyway, 67 Ranger, pro stock is a very tight field and sometimes even the best don't qualify every time. One of the cars I crew for has a little single carb Reher Morrison in it, and we would be happy to set up a match race with any door car you have. Also, one of the baddest Pro Mods in the country runs a Reher Morrison set up. Maybe you have heard of Shannon Jenkins from Speedtech? I'm sure you have.
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Originally Posted by THE_SUPRA
"$38,000 for each additional horsepower found on the dyno."
CRAZY!
When I read stuff like that it just makes me realize how little I actually know.
CRAZY!
When I read stuff like that it just makes me realize how little I actually know.
Yeah...those guys are a whole 'nother level! 
Originally Posted by 67Ranger
when was the last time they had a competitive pro stock engine?
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That was a great little story. Thanks for posting.
As for insulting R M, in my opinion anyone that even qualifies one time out of a hundred gets my respect and praise. Failing or running out of money or whatever the case may be for NHRA pro-stock can not be used against them or their skill. I'm not a fan of Pro-Stock, but that is the frigging hardest class & most complicated car you will ever come across. .001 of a second is huge to those people and to do it pass after pass should be applauded. Most weeks you must make a perfect pass on fri. night to qualify, and if u miss the clutch by a touch, you're going home sat night.
R M is one of the top builders in the history of our sport, there is nothing left they need to prove, I'm a Schmidt fan & customer, but I'm not going to listen to anyone like R M be insulted after all they did for our sport for over 20 + years.
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That was a great little story. Thanks for posting.
As for insulting R M, in my opinion anyone that even qualifies one time out of a hundred gets my respect and praise. Failing or running out of money or whatever the case may be for NHRA pro-stock can not be used against them or their skill. I'm not a fan of Pro-Stock, but that is the frigging hardest class & most complicated car you will ever come across. .001 of a second is huge to those people and to do it pass after pass should be applauded. Most weeks you must make a perfect pass on fri. night to qualify, and if u miss the clutch by a touch, you're going home sat night.
R M is one of the top builders in the history of our sport, there is nothing left they need to prove, I'm a Schmidt fan & customer, but I'm not going to listen to anyone like R M be insulted after all they did for our sport for over 20 + years.
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Good read, Thanks ! 
Reyer Morrison is hands down one of the best engine builders EVER and anyone that questions that is a freakin idiot. And yes Shannon Jenkins "The ICEMAN" and all the boys at SpeedTech run Reyer Morrison.
Originally Posted by 1QuickT-A
Reyer Morrison is hands down one of the best engine builders EVER and anyone that questions that is a freakin idiot. And yes Shannon Jenkins "The ICEMAN" and all the boys at SpeedTech run Reyer Morrison.
shannon ran fulton for years but he went to reher morrison just to gain a few horspower,im sure a lot of friendships are lost in this cut throat sport,reher morrison has done nothing but good things for the racing community. 
Originally Posted by Ed Wright
Maybe you need to drive up there and show them how to do it? I have known those guys over 30 years. Those are sharp, hard working guys. Not just a bunch of internet racers that talk it but can't do it. Takes cubic dollars to run NHRA Pro Stock, and a full time comitment to r&d, with weekly (most often more han one day) on-track testing sessions. About impossible to run a busy race engine business like David & Bruce have and keep up in Pro Stock. If you have no connections with one of the better teams you may not realize the time and millions of dollars involved. If you won the lottery tomorrow, you could not go out this or next week and buy a FAST NHRA Pro Stock engine. You could buy an engine, but not stout enough to crack the top half of the field, if it would qualify at all. It would be last year's stuff. Look at the IHRA Pro Stock hot dogs, 98% of those guys tried NHRA, and I most always saw them going home Sat evenings. Nobile,Patrick,Corvo, etc, etc.
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Originally Posted by helicoil
Most of the time it isn't about HP, it is about clutch, gearing, and adapting to the conditions. Horsepower can be bought or rented. It is the rest of the equation where people come up short.
Originally Posted by helicoil
Most of the time it isn't about HP, it is about clutch, gearing, and adapting to the conditions. Horsepower can be bought or rented. It is the rest of the equation where people come up short.
Really good cylinder heads you protect with your life. Cutting them on a cnc machine does not mean they will all run the same. Some hand work is still involved. Frank is working to the Mike's engines back running like last year. They dyno well, but...
The cars don't even all react the same. Last year my friend had a car that would not 60' worth a damn. He was weak at 60' & 330'. Ran the back half well. This year, new car, off the same jig, and it hooks like crazy. He has been under .980 in 60' numerous times this year. Now his engines don't run the back half like last year.
Remember the quote in Days of Thunder..."there aint nutnin' stock about a stock car"?
Well there aint nuthin stock about a pro stock engine! I read an article one time about pro stock engines...every piece is hand massaged, they try infinite amounts of port shapes,port placement, valve placement,piston dome shapes etc, they play with EVERY aspect of what makes power, and even some that in past thoughts were thought to be a waste of time.
I even read that the cylinder heads come so UNFINISHED they look like a plain block of aluminum.....many many have been junked trying new things on a head. I have much respect for guys like Reher and Morrison and the like, even in Comp eliminator, super stock and stock the technology there is mind boggling.
Hers is what I would lie to see, EFI small blocks in pro stock...similar to the pro stock trucks but with efi.
David
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Well there aint nuthin stock about a pro stock engine! I read an article one time about pro stock engines...every piece is hand massaged, they try infinite amounts of port shapes,port placement, valve placement,piston dome shapes etc, they play with EVERY aspect of what makes power, and even some that in past thoughts were thought to be a waste of time.
I even read that the cylinder heads come so UNFINISHED they look like a plain block of aluminum.....many many have been junked trying new things on a head. I have much respect for guys like Reher and Morrison and the like, even in Comp eliminator, super stock and stock the technology there is mind boggling.
Hers is what I would lie to see, EFI small blocks in pro stock...similar to the pro stock trucks but with efi.
David
ED CALL ME I GOT PROBLEMS!
Ph number in a pm I just sent you
Last edited by FASTFATBOY; May 24, 2007 at 07:24 PM.
Originally Posted by FASTFATBOY
Remember the quote in Days of Thunder..."there aint nutnin' stock about a stock car"?
Well there aint nuthin stock about a pro stock engine! I read an article one time about pro stock engines...every piece is hand massaged, they try infinite amounts of port shapes,port placement, valve placement,piston dome shapes etc, they play with EVERY aspect of what makes power, and even some that in past thoughts were thought to be a waste of time.
I even read that the cylinder heads come so UNFINISHED they look like a plain block of aluminum.....many many have been junked trying new things on a head. I have much respect for guys like Reher and Morrison and the like, even in Comp eliminator, super stock and stock the technology there is mind boggling.
Hers is what I would lie to see, EFI small blocks in pro stock...similar to the pro stock trucks but with efi.
David
ED CALL ME I GOT PROBLEMS!
Ph number in a pm I just sent you
Well there aint nuthin stock about a pro stock engine! I read an article one time about pro stock engines...every piece is hand massaged, they try infinite amounts of port shapes,port placement, valve placement,piston dome shapes etc, they play with EVERY aspect of what makes power, and even some that in past thoughts were thought to be a waste of time.
I even read that the cylinder heads come so UNFINISHED they look like a plain block of aluminum.....many many have been junked trying new things on a head. I have much respect for guys like Reher and Morrison and the like, even in Comp eliminator, super stock and stock the technology there is mind boggling.
Hers is what I would lie to see, EFI small blocks in pro stock...similar to the pro stock trucks but with efi.
David
ED CALL ME I GOT PROBLEMS!
Ph number in a pm I just sent you