FieroZ34

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HOHN, thanks for joining.

The thread you linked to. It amazes me that even after extensively proving there is no way it could happen, he still defends it to the death. And a lot of people take his side too. But, it was one of his latest little comments that shows his true ignorance. "Z06, forget it. It would blow up." Umm. Because we all know how unreliable a 6 bolt main, forged bottom end, 11:1 SCR, 72hp/l engine is. Here I was thinking pretty damn reliable. Guess not. But I bet he thinks a BMW is the king of reliability? I'd like to see which lasts longer, an M5 5.0 V10 at the RPM it needs to be at to make its 500hp (Aound 7500 IIRC), or a 7.0 V8 at its 505hp RPM (Around 6400 IIRC). I'm thinking the Z06 would win that.

Jpr5690

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Look Up Ppe, Mc Rat Diesel, Rbp.. Im Makeing 600 Hp Its Nothing Special For A Turbo Diesel

Mc Rat Offers A Streetable (and Common) Tune For 500rwhp.. Hell The Only Reason Im Not Makeing More Power Is The Tranny Limitation Ppe Actually Offers More Agressive Tunes That With A Fuel Pump Upgrade You Can Hit 750 Hp (crank)

FieroZ34

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That would involve reading your post, which is harder than reading the Koran.

Go back to grade school, the first time obviously didn't work.

Jpr5690

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Glad To See Dumb ***** Like You Can Ruin The Advanced Tech Section Too... Look If You Dont Like My Posts Or This Thread Then Stay Out

Its Not Like You Had To Post In This Thread

Jpr5690

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ACTUALLY 800LBFT IS COMON IN A LIGHTLY MODDED DIESEL

TO BE MORE PERSICE PPE CLAIMS APPROX 600 HP AND JUST 700+ TQ WITH THEIR STAGE 4 TUNE.. I DONT ANYONE HERE CAN SLAM PPE AS THEY HAVE A D-MAX RUNNING FASTER THAN MOST OF OUR CARS IN THE QTR...

RussStang

Apparently your reading comprehension is as expansive as your ability to display decent grammar in an internet post. Do you have a link to any of this? I would like to read for myself about this, especially what a "Stage 4 tune" consists of.

I tried looking up that random string of letters you instructed me to look up, but I am not coming up with anything consistent. It certainly doesn't look like anyone has achieved 600hp with "just a chip", but I admittedly only spent a few minutes scouring the net looking for one.

*Edit- Also, about achieving 600hp with torque being in the 700lb-ft range, you would need to rev the engine past 4000rpm to get that power, assuming the engine is still making 700lb-ft at it's power peak. That doesn't seem very likely a scenario to me. Those numbers don't add up.

ErikElvis

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I think it was an impala... I think. That was def different. I thought it was kinda cool.

dano73327

I agree. If you're going to make posts talking about power you should do the math first and see if it adds up instead of making some ridiculous post.

BryanJohnson

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*Edit- Also, about achieving 600hp with torque being in the 700lb-ft range, you would need to rev the engine past 4000rpm to get that power, assuming the engine is still making 700lb-ft at it's power peak. That doesn't seem very likely a scenario to me. Those numbers don't add up.[/QUOTE]

man your nothing but a tool. check out www.dieseltruckresource.com and you will find all kinds of info. i'm not going to link it to you, get off your lazy *** and do it yourself. also mr. know-it-all, your typical diesel does not have a torque curve like a gasoline engine. their torque peaks early and carries it throughout torque curve before the peak horsepower. when my VP44 ISB Cummins was stock it made 245hp @ 2900 rpm and made peak torque of 505lb. ft @ 1600 rpm and carried it to 2500 rpm. now for the 600 series common rail, they make over 600 lb. ft. of torque at 1400 rpm carried to 2500 rpm and make 325hp at 2900 rpm as well. i dont keep up with the d-max and p-stroke too much but the average box now for a dodge diesel adds at least 200 lb. ft of torque over stock without altering the rpm range. also a diesel pickup that makes 600 hp will make more than 700 lb ft of torque. it will be closer to 1000 lb ft of torque. now go do some research!

gametech

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You just called someone stupid, and then agreed with the point he made. The above quote was in reference to an earlier post that lacked math skills. I believe the quote you referenced, as well as most others in this forum fully realize you don't get 600hp from a diesel with 700tq. Don't call someone a tool if you lack the reading comprehension to understand what they wrote.

BryanJohnson

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please go back and read post 60

Jpr5690

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Um... Actually I Was Tring To Be Consertive With My (tq) Numbers But Hey Dont Belive Me I Really Dont Care...

Do A Search For Ppe Diesel.. Their Tunes Go From +50 Hp To +350hp

Now If You Add +350 Hp On Top Of The Stock 365 Hp I Think You Can See What Im Talking About

Also Mcrat Racing Has Proved It By Takeing A Stock D-max To The Low 12's On Nothing More Than A Tune And Minor Boltons..

Again Thats A 10,000+ Lb Truck In The 12's On A Tune And Exhaust

But Hey Were All Liars

Honestly I Dont Care If You Belive Me Or Ppe.. Its Their Claims If You Wanna Call One Of The Most Reputable Diesel Companies A Liar Go For It.. I Personally Have Their Product And Can Say You Just Have To See It To Believe It...

Jpr5690

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http://www.pacificp.com/index.php?ma...roducts_id=130 PPE SCROLL DOWN..

Jpr5690

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http://www.htturbo.com/WinnersCircle.htm HERES AN ARTICLE ON MCRAT MAKEING 650RWHP (WITH MORE MODS OVBIOUSLY).. DID THEY SAY WORLD RECCORD???

ALSO GO THEIR WEBSITE THEY HAVE A 500RWHP TUNE FOR A STOCK SILVERADO..

SO NOW YOUR BASICALLY CALLING THE WORLD RECCORD HOLDER FOR DIESEL PERFORMANCE AND ONE OF THE MOST REPUTABLE DIESEL COMPANIES LIARS BECAUSE THEY BOTH HAVE TUNES FOR 600+ CRANK HP

Jpr5690

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The 2006 - 2007 Xcelerator for the Duramax LLY and LBZ has these power levels**:

LLY/LBZ 2006-2007 Hot+2 XceleratorHorse PowerPower LevelIncrease

1

Economy Performance

40

2

Tow Performance

90

3

High Performance

160

4

Race Performance

225

5

Hot Performance

300

6

Hot +2 Performance

350

RussStang

I am a tool?? Reread the thread before you start calling people stupid. I didn't say a 600hp diesel engine would be making only 700lb/ft of torque, someone else said it. I can actually do math, and realize that a diesel must make more torque to make that power, because they can't rev worth a ****. I said that the OP doesn't have 600hp with a chip. You diesel nuthuggers are making a lot of assumptions about me, and putting words in my mouth. I know there are big power diesels out there, so I don't know what you idiots are trying to prove to me.

RussStang

OK. Take a deep breath, read what I have to write very thoroughly, and stop typing everything in caps. I am not trying to say diesels can't make big power. Go ahead, pick all of my posts apart in this thread, and try to find where I said that. I didn't. You don't need to try to prove to me that diesels can make power. Hell, anything can make power if you through enough money at it, and with the turboes that come on a typical diesel, it should be pretty obvious that they can. I said that I doubted that your truck with just a tune makes 600hp. You showed me a link, which I appreciate, but now I would have to inquire do you have a dynograph for you truck, or are you just assuming about the power?

1320

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jpr5690, first a truck doesnt weigh 10000 lbs. A silverado is probably in the 6600 area, with the duallies being 7000-7600. Second , most deisel salesmanship is the same a sand horsepower. There are few trucks making a true 500 or more on a dyno. Some, but not a lot.

One of my closet friends was second at the may madness deisel event with 551 1098 with his cummins . Its an 03, exhuast, 62 fat shaft turbo , and two boxes stacked. About 3000$ in mods.

Alot of cummins make well in excess of 800 ft lbs. Most mild ones make 800 plus. Mine is a 12 valve cummins, compound turbos, one big one little, injectors, exhuast and three intercoolers, with water / meth injection. I can top 600 hp 1100 ft lbs with meth . I also can spn mne to 4000 or just a little more. Peak torque= 1900 rpm.
My truck is otherwise stock, never had the head off, nothing, it has 214 k miles on it. The true buety of the cummins but they are all good in there own way. BTW, my extra cab dually weighed 7200 full of fuel, and its a 4x4.

What I want is a deisel turbo bike. They used a 3 cy tdi with a turbo on a prototype and reportedly goy 120 rwhp/ 250 ft lbs, and 150 mpg.

Jpr5690

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No I Don't Dyno My Truck.. But Ppe Has, I Believe Ppe... Thats It

All Of You May Not, Thats Ok

But By Saying That Ppe's Claims Are Not The Case You Are Calling Them A Liar


It Says Very Clearly On Their Website (of Which I Posted Links) The Power Levels For Their Chips

All Im Doing Is Repeating What I've Been Told By Ppe, Rpb, Mcrat Raceing And Most Other Diesel Companies

If You Think That Everyone In The Diesel Market Is "full Of ****" Then So Be It.. Some How I Just Dont Think This Is The Case

Again Almost Every Diesel Company Makes Chips In This Power Range

Again These Are Crank Hp Numbers, And Yes I Firmly Belive My Truck Makes 600 Hp (crank) Why??? Because Ppe,rbp,mcrat,bullydog,banks, And About 20 More Companies Havebeen Able To Consistently Produce Products That Do So For Many Yrs Now

RussStang

I don't believe I ever stated I did not believe their claims.

I would expect it to. It states possible horsepower gains on any performance product you buy. It is probably good business sense.

Again, I don't believe I ever said that.


So, you don't have a dyno graph then? Seems like most of the guys on here usually like to see a dyno graph when someone claims they are making x amount of power.