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Old Sep 25, 2007 | 07:07 AM
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ok i know that this is like maybe a dumb question not meant for hear. But can anyone please tell me the stock head specs, along with the gasket thickness so i can find the compression online with a calculator, and then play around with it like if i were to mill the heads or swap gaskets? ( stock ls1 241 heads from a 00' trans am)
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ok i know that this is like maybe a dumb question not meant for hear. But can anyone please tell me the stock head specs, along with the gasket thickness so i can find the compression online with a calculator, and then play around with it like if i were to mill the heads or swap gaskets? ( stock ls1 241 heads from a 00' trans am)

Thanks SO MUCH in advance
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Old Sep 25, 2007 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Dragkid1917
ok i know that this is like maybe a dumb question not meant for hear. But can anyone please tell me the stock head specs, along with the gasket thickness so i can find the compression online with a calculator, and then play around with it like if i were to mill the heads or swap gaskets? ( stock ls1 241 heads from a 00' trans am)

Thanks SO MUCH in advance
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Old Sep 25, 2007 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by KCFormula
The best formula I have found is based on thermal efficiency.
E= 1-(1/R^K-1)
E is the thermal efficency, R is the compression ratio and K is the coefficient for the adiabatic (SP?) expansion of air. Which means there is a lot of factors that play into it but when done right a good rule of thumb would be about 3-4%.
What is thermal efficiency? What units is it measured in? If it is highly correlated w/ torque, then the answer to this riddle is to differentiate E with respect to R. The derivative will answer your question.
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 08:28 AM
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What is thermal efficiency? What units is it measured in? If it is highly correlated w/ torque, then the answer to this riddle is to differentiate E with respect to R. The derivative will answer your question.

There are no units. Its a percentage of T.E. The goal is to find T.E. by estimating numbers on the other side of the equasion.
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by KCFormula
There are no units. Its a percentage of T.E. The goal is to find T.E. by estimating numbers on the other side of the equasion.
Cool. Since it isn't measured in units, how is it defined (the percentage of heat that goes to create work)?
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the search thing isnt working. It just comes up as a blank page. I tried stock cylindar head volume.
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Never mind i found it, Now i have a question. If i mill the stock heads .040, or if i mill them .030 and put a .010 thinner gasket on, it sould raise my compression to 11.12 :1, that is assuming the base number in 10.1:1, which would mean the piston is down in the hole .005 at TDC, whick seemed to be of confusion because i read someone wasnt sure if it was .005 or -.008, which would change alot. Anyway 10.1:1 sounds right. So if i did this, can i still run 93 pump gas without detonation? And is it safe to run that clearence with a 233/239 .598/.603 112lsa? And... with 233/239 .616/.621 112lsa?
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 11:18 AM
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Efficiency is usually defined in terms like BSFC as in Brake Specific Fuel Consumption or another words how much power do make while consuming X mass of fuel per unit time. There is also BSAC or Brake Specific Air Consumption or another words how much power do make while consuming X mass of air per unit time. Of course they are related through the A/F ratio.
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 03:29 PM
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My own personal car picked up .22 in the eighth mile going from 10.3:1 to 11.9:1, all I did was mill the heads. That equates to around 20 horsepower out of 6 cylinders. FWIW
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