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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 06:46 PM
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I will give as much info as possible. The problem is a dead misfire between 2800-3200 rpm. The car spits and pops very badly. Replaced PCM, been thru SD tune and now are running a 100 mm Lingenfelter MAF. Nothing we do will change the characteristics of the problem. The motor is a LS7 with ported L92 heads and a 257/266 248/222 110 cam advanced 4 ivo-22.5 ivc-54.5
evo-67.5 evc-19
Open exhaust with kooks 1 7/8 headers.

.040 gasket with a .035 quench
heads milled to achieve 68cc
SCR: 11.99:1
DCR: 8.27:1

The problem is not in the tune has been looked at by different reputable tuners and nothing has changed. Some thoughts are that there is something wrong with the cam (how it was built) or the crank reluctor wheel is bent (would think this would cause issue at all times??) Have you guys come across anything that was acting like this before? Thanks for any help.
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 08:13 PM
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sounds to me like a sync issue..

check your crank and cam sensors..
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DanO
sounds to me like a sync issue..

check your crank and cam sensors..


Thanks but we have done all that which is why I personally think it is not a reluctor wheel issue.
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 09:57 PM
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Well you could verify your cam timing with a degree wheel to check that

check the plugs to see if there is a fine crack (probably already did)

Double check timing with the light (probably did that too)

Start unplugging injectors to figure out if its a single cylinder or all of them

I had an issue that sounds almost identical to a friends car.. he was running an AEM and had the senstivity set wrong on the crank sensor..

Whats the timing doing when it occurs (you have HP tuners or efi live?), is there knock?, AFR?
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 10:47 AM
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Sounds like plugs and wires to me. Have you checked them?
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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by 3.4camaro
Sounds like plugs and wires to me. Have you checked them?
For sure dont over look the simple things either.

Try unplugging your 02's, one side, test it. Other side, test it, both sides, test it.

I had a simular problem a year ago. Just because someone is reputable doesnt mean they are worth a lick. It ended up being an 02 and took 5 months to track down. Started with my SES light flashing while cruising down highway. Later developed into a hard miss between 1300-4500.

Did the tuners check your sensors at idle or while the car was malfunctioning? If they did it at idle or when it wasnt malfunctioning odds are it wont show up. Data log it during the malfunction and see what its doing electronics wise.
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 10:51 PM
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I recently had a problem similar to this. I had a misfire at 2800 to 3200 rpm at light acceleration. If I gave it more gas during that rpm it would clear up. missed at light accel. any other time the car ran great. Try to narrow down the cylinder that is affected. I used a genesis scanner and looked at the misfire counts. #7 showing miss counts. ended up being a broke valve spring on #7. Thank god for dual springs.


Maybe this will help. may not
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Old Mar 1, 2008 | 07:04 AM
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i had this same problem and it ended up being a bad 02 simulator.
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I remember a story similar to this, took a long long time to figure out, Wheel 2 Wheel finally got it cleared up, you might want to call them, I can't remember what it was.
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I have also heard of problems like that being valve springs like what was posted above.
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Mine was a similar story, ended up being a bad O2 sensor.
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