All LED's, Sequential and Pulser, 90 MM Hella Fogs, Hid conversion
04-09-2009, 11:40 PM
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All LED's, Sequential and Pulser, 90 MM Hella Fogs, Hid conversion This is the link on You Tube please let me know if you guys can see it. Its the first time I have ever done anything like this. I already have the still photos, I will give a detailed post with photos tomorrow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uwLRWqmflw
Thanks Ed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uwLRWqmflw
Thanks Ed
04-10-2009, 09:51 AM
#4
How this crazy thing started, More photos and info! This whole project started with a turn signal bulb that was out. When I got the car last fall one of the first things I notice is the right front turn signal bulb was out. When I went to change the bulb, I notice the lense was cracked, the socket corroded and the inside of the lense housing was burnt.
So I purchased 2 new housing from some online parts place for like $77.00 for both. I picked up 2 new sockets from Advance. I replaced the sockets by stripping , wrapping and soldering the new ones in. I then covered the joint with liquid tape and double up on the shrink tubing. All this doesn't address the fact that GM is using 3457 DRL bulb that really gets too hot and discolors the mirror finish and overheating discolors the socket for the bulb. So off I go for a solution. The solution I choose was a set DRL LED's (for low heat and current draw) that change from amber to white from V-LED. These also look better behind the lense as they are white and not yellow. I also changed the corner lights 194's to LED as they kept burning out on me.
I found out with the reduction on current draw I would have to ditch my themal falser and go electronic. More on this later. I will add photos and write the next chapter on this tonight.
Lessons learned:
1) All LED's are not equal, you get what you pay for.
2) I used Diaelectric grease on all sockets, it at the leasts makes removing bulbs easier.
3) The color changing effect of the DRL is not as advertised exactly because of our light module in the car. Basically the 3157 socket has 3 wires/terminals. A,B and G. The A is one filament and the B is the other filament and G is ground. So whats the deal? The Light module swaps which filament it uses for DRL's depending on whether the headlights are on and the ambient light sensor. So to break it done some times my DRL's are yellow like during the day or white at night. The bulbs always flashes just fine for the turn signal.
Ed
Remaining segments/posts:
a. Sequential turn signals
b. 90mm Hella projector install for fog lights
c. Strobe Flasher for 3rd brake lights
d. Hid Conversion
e. Miscellanous Led wrap up.
I did this mostly because when I come across really bright taillights or those motorcycles with the flashing headlights my attention is immediately drawn to them.
Thats why 3rd brake lights were so successfully at reducing rear end collisions when they first came out. I guess though as those became common on all vehicles I figure that they are not so effective. If this mod prevents someone from 16 to 90 whos on there cell phone at 70 mph on congested I4 from ploughing into my birds *** then it was worth every penny. I've already got spent at least 7 grand since November not counting the car.
To do this mod right I have almost 4 figures in it. My problem is I fix everything not perfect as I go along and insist on trying to make it perfect. So every little job seems to pull the proverbial thread of my TA sweater.
P.S. I've had QTP LT's, ORV Y, Innovate WO2, Efi Live, plugs, wires, Innovate fuel pressure sending unit, fuel rails all setting on a shelf since before christmas. I had to finish some honey dos and I was reknitting this sweater before I start.
Totally scared that this will unwind half of the sweater on this install.
Ed
So I purchased 2 new housing from some online parts place for like $77.00 for both. I picked up 2 new sockets from Advance. I replaced the sockets by stripping , wrapping and soldering the new ones in. I then covered the joint with liquid tape and double up on the shrink tubing. All this doesn't address the fact that GM is using 3457 DRL bulb that really gets too hot and discolors the mirror finish and overheating discolors the socket for the bulb. So off I go for a solution. The solution I choose was a set DRL LED's (for low heat and current draw) that change from amber to white from V-LED. These also look better behind the lense as they are white and not yellow. I also changed the corner lights 194's to LED as they kept burning out on me.
I found out with the reduction on current draw I would have to ditch my themal falser and go electronic. More on this later. I will add photos and write the next chapter on this tonight.
Lessons learned:
1) All LED's are not equal, you get what you pay for.
2) I used Diaelectric grease on all sockets, it at the leasts makes removing bulbs easier.
3) The color changing effect of the DRL is not as advertised exactly because of our light module in the car. Basically the 3157 socket has 3 wires/terminals. A,B and G. The A is one filament and the B is the other filament and G is ground. So whats the deal? The Light module swaps which filament it uses for DRL's depending on whether the headlights are on and the ambient light sensor. So to break it done some times my DRL's are yellow like during the day or white at night. The bulbs always flashes just fine for the turn signal.
Ed
Remaining segments/posts:
a. Sequential turn signals
b. 90mm Hella projector install for fog lights
c. Strobe Flasher for 3rd brake lights
d. Hid Conversion
e. Miscellanous Led wrap up.
I did this mostly because when I come across really bright taillights or those motorcycles with the flashing headlights my attention is immediately drawn to them.
Thats why 3rd brake lights were so successfully at reducing rear end collisions when they first came out. I guess though as those became common on all vehicles I figure that they are not so effective. If this mod prevents someone from 16 to 90 whos on there cell phone at 70 mph on congested I4 from ploughing into my birds *** then it was worth every penny. I've already got spent at least 7 grand since November not counting the car.
To do this mod right I have almost 4 figures in it. My problem is I fix everything not perfect as I go along and insist on trying to make it perfect. So every little job seems to pull the proverbial thread of my TA sweater.
P.S. I've had QTP LT's, ORV Y, Innovate WO2, Efi Live, plugs, wires, Innovate fuel pressure sending unit, fuel rails all setting on a shelf since before christmas. I had to finish some honey dos and I was reknitting this sweater before I start.
Totally scared that this will unwind half of the sweater on this install.
Ed
Last edited by BRD-PREY; 04-10-2009 at 10:44 AM. Reason: forgot the photos
04-10-2009, 03:28 PM
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Nice job I have an led 3rd brake light on my Iroc spoiler and was looking to do smt leds in my tails and do a sequential mod with it. I sent you a pm too thanks!
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04-10-2009, 07:27 PM
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I can't speak for all states but it's legal in Iowa and probably everywhere else. You can't have red lights flashing (or even visable red lights) from the front of a vehicle unless it's an emergency vehicle. However, a rear blinking brake light is fine.
04-10-2009, 08:06 PM
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I looked into after the comments Fl states no flashing lights except turn signal or stopped for an emergency. Plus is says no blue at all. So technically my license plate bulbs are a no no. We'll see, if I run into problems I'll make the necessary changes.
I'm not trying to impersonate an emergency vehicle as its only in the back and only my 3rd brake light. I thought the blue led license plate bulb was cool cause it matched my car color.
I'm not trying to impersonate an emergency vehicle as its only in the back and only my 3rd brake light. I thought the blue led license plate bulb was cool cause it matched my car color.
04-11-2009, 07:38 AM
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too much imo. also, maybe slow down the turn signal slightly? anyways, yeah theres absolutely no way you are going ot get away with that. i dont see it passing inspection but u wont make it to inspection without a butload of tickets anyways.
04-11-2009, 11:59 AM
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First off, I'm not living in the socialist hdqtrs up North. We don't have inspections. Yet! but I'm sure with Crist just jumping in an taking the Stimulast handouts, there sure to be more Federal regulations were now bound to follow. Wish, I lived in one of the 9 states that refused the bailout money.
NHTSA Technical Report Number DOT HS 808 696 March 1998
The Long-Term Effectiveness of Center High Mounted Stop Lamps in Passenger Cars and Light Trucks
Charles J. Kahane, Ph.D. and Ellen Hertz, Ph.D.
Center High Mounted Stop Lamps (CHMSL) have been standard equipment on all new passenger cars sold in the United States since model year 1986 and all new light trucks since model year 1994, as required by Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 108. The purpose of CHMSL is to safeguard a car or light truck from being struck in the rear by another vehicle. When brakes are applied, the CHMSL warns drivers of following vehicles that they must slow down. This report tracks the effectiveness of CHMSL, year by year, from 1986 through 1995. The statistical analyses are based on police-reported crash files from eight States. It was found that:
-The lamps were most effective in the early years. In 1987, CHMSL reduced rear impact crashes by 8.5 percent (confidence bounds 6.1 to 10.9 percent).
-Effectiveness declined in 1988 and 1989, but then leveled off. During 1989-95, CHMSL reduced rear impact crashes by 4.3 percent (confidence bounds 2.9 to 5.8 percent). This is the long-term effectiveness of the lamps.
-The effectiveness of CHMSL in light trucks is about the same as in passenger cars.
-At the long-term effectiveness level of 4.3 percent, when all cars and light trucks on the road have CHMSL, the lamps will prevent 92,000-137,000 police-reported crashes, 58,000-70,000 nonfatal injuries, and $655,000,000 (in 1994 dollars) in property damage per year.
I don't argue that according to FL law its a not allowed because it flashes but so is going 74 MPH on the hwy. A butt load of tickets for either would sure be pathetic.
P.S. I hope my butt is smaller than yours.
P.S.S. I also have a sticker back there that says not an approved storage area! (for tickets or anything)
I recommend we outlaw distracted drivers and legalize flashing 3rd brake lights.
NHTSA Technical Report Number DOT HS 808 696 March 1998
The Long-Term Effectiveness of Center High Mounted Stop Lamps in Passenger Cars and Light Trucks
Charles J. Kahane, Ph.D. and Ellen Hertz, Ph.D.
Center High Mounted Stop Lamps (CHMSL) have been standard equipment on all new passenger cars sold in the United States since model year 1986 and all new light trucks since model year 1994, as required by Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 108. The purpose of CHMSL is to safeguard a car or light truck from being struck in the rear by another vehicle. When brakes are applied, the CHMSL warns drivers of following vehicles that they must slow down. This report tracks the effectiveness of CHMSL, year by year, from 1986 through 1995. The statistical analyses are based on police-reported crash files from eight States. It was found that:
-The lamps were most effective in the early years. In 1987, CHMSL reduced rear impact crashes by 8.5 percent (confidence bounds 6.1 to 10.9 percent).
-Effectiveness declined in 1988 and 1989, but then leveled off. During 1989-95, CHMSL reduced rear impact crashes by 4.3 percent (confidence bounds 2.9 to 5.8 percent). This is the long-term effectiveness of the lamps.
-The effectiveness of CHMSL in light trucks is about the same as in passenger cars.
-At the long-term effectiveness level of 4.3 percent, when all cars and light trucks on the road have CHMSL, the lamps will prevent 92,000-137,000 police-reported crashes, 58,000-70,000 nonfatal injuries, and $655,000,000 (in 1994 dollars) in property damage per year.
I don't argue that according to FL law its a not allowed because it flashes but so is going 74 MPH on the hwy. A butt load of tickets for either would sure be pathetic.
P.S. I hope my butt is smaller than yours.
P.S.S. I also have a sticker back there that says not an approved storage area! (for tickets or anything)
I recommend we outlaw distracted drivers and legalize flashing 3rd brake lights.
04-11-2009, 02:18 PM
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Hella 90's I'm really happy with these. I will have this part of the write up done this weekend. I once had them on by accident without headlights at night for about 10 minutes and didn't realize it. They are much wider and whiter than my headlights. If I switch my high beams on the fogs go off right now as designed. I litterally have more light in low beam+ fog than Low Beam + High. I'm still waiting for the HID conversions headlights to arrive, that should address that issue. I think they are aimed slightly too high now but I'm surprised no one flashes me when I drive by. They are the 90 mm low beams not the fog lights. I wanted a true projector lense and the fogs and high beams don't have that glass focusing lense.
Ed
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04-12-2009, 08:06 AM
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Sure, let me finish up today. I've got the carpet out as I'm finishing up my sound deading and swapping my driver seat and passenger seat foam.
My Eurolight conversion kit came yesterday. Thats the last of my light mods. Little disappointed because the kit states includes wiring adapters. They included a piece of paper that says cut your wires and use spade connectors. Not a chance, I'm butcherin my ****. So off I got to buy hid bulb connectors. When I find them, they probably won't have 4 in stock.
My Eurolight conversion kit came yesterday. Thats the last of my light mods. Little disappointed because the kit states includes wiring adapters. They included a piece of paper that says cut your wires and use spade connectors. Not a chance, I'm butcherin my ****. So off I got to buy hid bulb connectors. When I find them, they probably won't have 4 in stock.