6LE SS spoiler
So I recieved a couple pics of it and they all came out blurry. Never trust your mother to take pictures.... She took them inside the house and all from the front which is retarded... I requested some new pics so hopefully I get better ones.. This sucks... Will post pics ASAP
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the third brake light thing is probably dependant on state, im a wv state inspector, and were not supposed to pass cars that are missing factory equipped brake lights, and the car isnt allowed to pass inspection if it has a third brake light out.
that isnt to say that you wouldnt get away with it. most places wont care, and most cops arent going to notice it gone
that isnt to say that you wouldnt get away with it. most places wont care, and most cops arent going to notice it gone
Nope and it is an ILLEGAL stop if they pull you over just because your third light is out.
I know this because my uncle is a liaison to the district attorney and had to tell them to drop a multimillion dollar drug bust because the initial stop was over a brake light being out BUT it was the third brake light.
I know this because my uncle is a liaison to the district attorney and had to tell them to drop a multimillion dollar drug bust because the initial stop was over a brake light being out BUT it was the third brake light.
the third brake light thing is probably dependant on state, im a wv state inspector, and were not supposed to pass cars that are missing factory equipped brake lights, and the car isnt allowed to pass inspection if it has a third brake light out.
that isnt to say that you wouldnt get away with it. most places wont care, and most cops arent going to notice it gone
that isnt to say that you wouldnt get away with it. most places wont care, and most cops arent going to notice it gone
Now in CA, if you have a third brake lamp equipped it has to be working, per 24252(a) CVC. Although, the law (CA law, as I do believe the center lamp is a federal standard*) does not require a third brake lamp anywhere in 24603 CVC (or its subsections covering stop lamps on vehicles). The catch all has always been 24252(a) CVC which covers lamps required on the vehicle must be working if the vehicle is equipped with them.
Basically if you don't have a third brake lamp, then cool; if you do and it isn't working, enforcement stop on a violation of 24252(a) CVC. The only laws in 24603 CVC about the supplemental (center brake lamp) are mounting requirements and re-iteration that they meet Federal standards. etc. etc.
EDIT:* Center High Mounted Stop Lamps (CHMSL) have been standard equipment on all new passenger cars sold in the United States since model year 1986 and all new light trucks since model year 1994, as required by Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 108.
Last edited by Azrael; Mar 28, 2010 at 05:42 AM.
^^Paraphrase of what was said above (and correct me if I am wrong but I've been reading similar accounts):
1) 1987+ all (supposedly) came with third brake lights...
2) Law says any light on the car (that it came with) must be functioning (which is still different than what warrants a legal stop)...
3) A cop is not going to see no light at all and pull you over for removing it... Let's be honest, how the heck would he really know 100% for sure your car is missing something like that?
1) 1987+ all (supposedly) came with third brake lights...
2) Law says any light on the car (that it came with) must be functioning (which is still different than what warrants a legal stop)...
3) A cop is not going to see no light at all and pull you over for removing it... Let's be honest, how the heck would he really know 100% for sure your car is missing something like that?
2) Law says any light on the car (that it came with) must be functioning (which is still different than what warrants a legal stop)...
3) A cop is not going to see no light at all and pull you over for removing it... Let's be honest, how the heck would he really know 100% for sure your car is missing something like that?
My replies are of course based on CA vehicle code, whereas other states may have statutory requirements for the third brake light unlike CA's reliance on manufacturers being in compliance with Federal law; such as the example given by "dragcamaro" above for West Virginia.
It is always best to consider aftermarket parts as off-road only use but under the specifics of CA law one would have a defense for a citation; and it would be based on the judge's interpretation of the Federal requirement versus the state statute.
The car gets ready to go to the shop to get repainted on the 3rd of April.
In addition to the 6LE SS spoiler, I am also having these things done as well:
-VFN Sunoco Hood (smooth style)
-Side Molding Removed
-Rear Side Marker Lights Shaved (The Correct Way)
-Shaved Antenna
-Flat Black paint behind the 6LE Black Billet Grille
-Front Bumper "CAMARO" letters and old grill mount holes get shaved
-XM antenna gets removed off of my Sail Panel
-Gloss Black Sunoco hood stripes (w/pinstripe) installed/clearcoated over
-Fenders get Rolled
-Whistler Modded Headlights
The car is getting resprayed SOM but I am having all the orange peel removed and the paint gets buried in a high quality/high gloss clearcoat. I am hoping to keep this car as clean looking as possible, and the Strano Springs and Gunmetal w/polished lip C6 Z06 Deep Dish Wheels (18x8.5/18x10.5) should really set this car off. Thanks again to 6LE who makes parts that we can all be happy with. I will keep updates and pics coming.
In addition to the 6LE SS spoiler, I am also having these things done as well:
-VFN Sunoco Hood (smooth style)
-Side Molding Removed
-Rear Side Marker Lights Shaved (The Correct Way)
-Shaved Antenna
-Flat Black paint behind the 6LE Black Billet Grille
-Front Bumper "CAMARO" letters and old grill mount holes get shaved
-XM antenna gets removed off of my Sail Panel
-Gloss Black Sunoco hood stripes (w/pinstripe) installed/clearcoated over
-Fenders get Rolled
-Whistler Modded Headlights
The car is getting resprayed SOM but I am having all the orange peel removed and the paint gets buried in a high quality/high gloss clearcoat. I am hoping to keep this car as clean looking as possible, and the Strano Springs and Gunmetal w/polished lip C6 Z06 Deep Dish Wheels (18x8.5/18x10.5) should really set this car off. Thanks again to 6LE who makes parts that we can all be happy with. I will keep updates and pics coming.
To be honest that's my old bumper. I miss it. I loved the grill holes being filled, but it was a aftermarket bumper and fit like **** on a stick.
Aftermarket bumpers don't have the "CAMARO" lettering on them for legal reasons.
Aftermarket bumpers don't have the "CAMARO" lettering on them for legal reasons.
Here is some good pics my Dad took... To be honest I don't really know what to think about the area that the third brake light was supposed to be..... I was under the impression that if the brake light was removed then it would be smoothed out and look as if the light was never a part of the spoiler. Let me know what you think. The hole just looks as if someone removed the brake light and that was all they did. Maybe I am missing something, Mark please add some input as to the design if you could
