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Old 03-14-2010, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by GoFast908Z
I didn't follow SIP with anything because the customer wasn't paying that much. And as good as FP is, 106fa works better on most GM clears. And I was using SIP, not IP... Try SIP, you'll like it better than IP.



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There is no 'best' IMO. All depends on the look you prefer: sealants or 'naubas. I think Megs 16 is the best looking along with SV Concorso for waxes. I think Zaino CS is the best looking sealant.

As I mentioned above, if you're working on a GM clear (like the fbody), switch to SIP and 106fa.
What's the difference between IP and SIP? I might look into the M105/205 combo this season.
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Thanks everyone!

Originally Posted by redracer1
I noticed you bare hand apply the swissvax, I also bare hand apply my Zymol Concours. Do you find it's easier to apply when warmed up a bit and if so how do you get it warm and stay that way? Awsome job btw.
It does spread better when its warm. I warm it in the palm of my hand before spreading it. Thanks
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Originally Posted by Striker
What's the difference between IP and SIP? I might look into the M105/205 combo this season.
SIP has a little more cut, but its designed for ceramic clears. Now our clears aren't ceramic, but they are hard. So it cuts better and it finishes down better than OEM. It is a GREAT one step. Followed by 106fa (also designed for ceramics) it is a phenominal combo.

M105 and M205 is a great combo too. I use it frequently on customer cars.
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Originally Posted by GoFast908Z
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It does spread better when its warm. I warm it in the palm of my hand before spreading it. Thanks
I thought so, I keep the jar near (not to close) to a halogen lite between applications while buffing out what I've applied. the heat from the light keeps the glaze just warm enough.
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I saw this before on autopia. Very nice detail.

Edit: I am a zymol fan, and the concourso looks very warm....similar to zy concours.
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Zymol makes some incredible glazes, I mainly use the Carbon as it's for darker colors. I wanted to try the Concours glaze but for $175 for 8oz I just never pulled the trigger. Finally I said what the hell lets give it a try, this glaze is simply amazing. prob most I'll spend on a glaze but Zymol has other products as high as $6,000. dont think I'll be goin there.lol.
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Originally Posted by GoFast908Z
SIP has a little more cut, but its designed for ceramic clears. Now our clears aren't ceramic, but they are hard. So it cuts better and it finishes down better than OEM. It is a GREAT one step. Followed by 106fa (also designed for ceramics) it is a phenominal combo.

M105 and M205 is a great combo too. I use it frequently on customer cars.
Ok, the 106fa is the Nano Finishing Polish? Also, how is the end result with m105/m205 on a orange/white pad? Is it mar free?

I am contemplating on what to do with the paint this season. A buddy of mine suggested I hit it with some Menz Final Polish and it should be good. The car has minimal lines, tiny light scratches on it, making him think IP will be too much.
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Originally Posted by Striker
Ok, the 106fa is the Nano Finishing Polish? Also, how is the end result with m105/m205 on a orange/white pad? Is it mar free?

I am contemplating on what to do with the paint this season. A buddy of mine suggested I hit it with some Menz Final Polish and it should be good. The car has minimal lines, tiny light scratches on it, making him think IP will be too much.
Yes, 106FA is the Nano. M205 really depends on the clear. On GM clear is *usually* finishes mar free or close to it. On softer clears its better on a black pad. I like to follow M205 with one of these: 106FA, FPII, or 85RD.

Like I said before, IP and FP are good, but SIP and 106FA are better suited to the Fbody clear.... I have dozens of examples I can show you. I hardly ever use my IP and FP because SIP and 106FA is that much better. Either way I'm sure your car will look better.
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Originally Posted by GoFast908Z
Yes, 106FA is the Nano. M205 really depends on the clear. On GM clear is *usually* finishes mar free or close to it. On softer clears its better on a black pad. I like to follow M205 with one of these: 106FA, FPII, or 85RD.

Like I said before, IP and FP are good, but SIP and 106FA are better suited to the Fbody clear.... I have dozens of examples I can show you. I hardly ever use my IP and FP because SIP and 106FA is that much better. Either way I'm sure your car will look better.
So maybe it would be a better idea if I were to pick up some 106fa to follow up after IP since I still have half a bottle. I am also working with a rotary and a DA with 4" pads.
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Originally Posted by Striker
So maybe it would be a better idea if I were to pick up some 106fa to follow up after IP since I still have half a bottle. I am also working with a rotary and a DA with 4" pads.
Yeah. And I'd get some 5.5" pads too.
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i just came lol car is badasssssssssss!
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holy hot! my Z28 was as clean as this but u should see it now i love ur work lol
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I'm doing a black 02 GT Mustang in a couple weeks, i've never worked with ford clear before. You think my IP/FP combo will be enough or should I go with 105/205?
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If you don't mind me asking, what does a detail job like that run?
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Originally Posted by Striker
I'm doing a black 02 GT Mustang in a couple weeks, i've never worked with ford clear before. You think my IP/FP combo will be enough or should I go with 105/205?
IP/FP will likely bring more gloss. M105/M205 will likely bring more correction.
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Originally Posted by rcoers
If you don't mind me asking, what does a detail job like that run?
around 250-300 and all day long.
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Originally Posted by GoFast908Z
IP/FP will likely bring more gloss. M105/M205 will likely bring more correction.
Alright, one last thing- am I OK to use a rotary with the M105/205 combo? I know it's designed to be used with a DA but I was gonna hit it with my Makita on speed 1 and see the turn out.
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Originally Posted by Striker
Alright, one last thing- am I OK to use a rotary with the M105/205 combo? I know it's designed to be used with a DA but I was gonna hit it with my Makita on speed 1 and see the turn out.
Actually they were designed for rotary. Original formula was rotary exclusive, but now they are fine on a DA. You can use either. I like 105 on the rotary and 205 on the DA. Speed 1 isn't gonna really do anything... work it in at 1000 then jump it up to 1400-1800 (use your judgment here) then refine it back down at 1000rpm.
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Originally Posted by GoFast908Z
Actually they were designed for rotary. Original formula was rotary exclusive, but now they are fine on a DA. You can use either. I like 105 on the rotary and 205 on the DA. Speed 1 isn't gonna really do anything... work it in at 1000 then jump it up to 1400-1800 (use your judgment here) then refine it back down at 1000rpm.
The speed adjusting, are you suggesting this fro the 105 only? Thanks
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both if you're using a rotary.


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