Brighter fog lights?
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Driving fast with no headlights is stupid. The fog lights will never have enough throw to be used alone especially when driving fast.
On top of that HID in these stock plastic reflector fog lights will glare and they will eventually melt.
On top of that HID in these stock plastic reflector fog lights will glare and they will eventually melt.
I got some Navigator NV-362W's. Much brighter than stock ones:
But don't think this is a replacement for your flip up headlights. They are bright but you still need your regular lights to drive safely at night.
But don't think this is a replacement for your flip up headlights. They are bright but you still need your regular lights to drive safely at night.
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I don't care what kind of light you put down there, the fog lights simply SIT TO LOW on the car to EVER be a viable alternative to the headlights, sure for sub 30 MPH quick hops around the neighborhood fogs may work (I use them sometimes going between my parents house and my house after I work on the car or have to stop there for some other reason, but it's basically a dead road after dark out there), If you honestly believe the headlights being up creates enough drag to slow you down that you are looking for alternatives to the lights your just plain foolish. Sorry if this comes across as mean but I do like half my daily drive (in the winter months) and a third of my driving the rest of the year while the headlights are up, they don't effect you enough to lose the safety of good lighting (not that stock firebord headlights could ever be considered "good" lighting to begin with).
You just bought the kit and put them in? No problems? One of my bulbs is out...would like to have ones that worked better as well.
Navigator NV-362W Specialty Light Kit : Amazon.com : Automotive
You just bought the kit and put them in? No problems? One of my bulbs is out...would like to have ones that worked better as well.
You just bought the kit and put them in? No problems? One of my bulbs is out...would like to have ones that worked better as well.
Hard part is making it look nice and centered and aligning them so you don't blind everyone in front of you
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I have those fog lights too, although with a different brand name on them. The same thing was sold through a few different brands.
Here is my install on my 2001 Formula:
http://www.fadingarrow.com/FogLights.htm
Here is Blue2KTA's install on his 2000 Trans Am:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/pontiac-f...og-lights.html
Both of the above write-ups are also in the Lighting FAQ.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/appearanc...hting-faq.html
Although brighter than stock and more durable, their beam pattern is not a fog light. It is closer to a driving light, but still misses that too. Its just not good. A fog light is supposed to have a low wide beam, not a conical pattern with bright center. These are not fog lights. I leave mine off.
Definitely don't put HID in those. You will blind everyone with that beam pattern.
Actually, I'm tempted to move the stock LED Grill Fog Lights from my 2013 Mustang GT to my Formula if they'll fit. Since I was thinking of changing them to a set of projector fog lights in the lower valance.
This is how a fog light beam pattern should look:
(I found this pic on Google)
Here is my install on my 2001 Formula:
http://www.fadingarrow.com/FogLights.htm
Here is Blue2KTA's install on his 2000 Trans Am:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/pontiac-f...og-lights.html
Both of the above write-ups are also in the Lighting FAQ.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/appearanc...hting-faq.html
Although brighter than stock and more durable, their beam pattern is not a fog light. It is closer to a driving light, but still misses that too. Its just not good. A fog light is supposed to have a low wide beam, not a conical pattern with bright center. These are not fog lights. I leave mine off.
Definitely don't put HID in those. You will blind everyone with that beam pattern.
Actually, I'm tempted to move the stock LED Grill Fog Lights from my 2013 Mustang GT to my Formula if they'll fit. Since I was thinking of changing them to a set of projector fog lights in the lower valance.
This is how a fog light beam pattern should look:
(I found this pic on Google)
Last edited by VIP1; Mar 18, 2014 at 11:06 PM.
It sounds like he is talking about when he is on the strip, not the street. The track should be bright enough to just run the fog lights. I raced a lot at night & I had no problems seeing.
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That is what I'm getting out of it also, I really don't think he is talking about ripping down a country S road at midnight with just fogs on guys
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the amount of drag you acquire with the lights up is absolutely minimal though... were talking 10ths of a mph... but if you THINK it affects you then run with it... it certainly doesnt HELP to have the lights up
I have 35k HID's. They are no where near enough for driving in the dark with just the fogs unless your at a lit race track. Mine are 6k. If you want better usable light stick with 4k ish.
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I went to make a turn into what i THOUGHT was a gravel driveway but turned out to be a wet, grassy, deep *** ditch. I'm switching to a 4300k first chance I get. Plus you cant even tell your lights are on when driving in a commercial area and theres any oncoming traffic... the light gets completely drowned out. And if the ground is saturated I cant even see the lines in the road... makes picking a lane quite difficult lol