Ultimate write-up against HID in reflector housing?
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I have been encountering a lot of suckers who install those eBay kits that put HIDs in reflector housings.... The only good write up I can find is this...
http://clubroadster.net/vb_forum/20-...out-there.html
Plenty of other forum posts as well via Google. Apparently it has to be on a fbody forum to have any merit. I know there are quite a few lighting gurus here who can help me out. Help me save others from getting blinded at night by these idiots!![The Judge](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_judge.gif)
http://clubroadster.net/vb_forum/20-...out-there.html
Plenty of other forum posts as well via Google. Apparently it has to be on a fbody forum to have any merit. I know there are quite a few lighting gurus here who can help me out. Help me save others from getting blinded at night by these idiots!
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I had a picture of someone's Camaro with HIDs vs mine with HIDs, stock vs projector, and it was very apparent which had more glare. Mine was even more head-on like in traffic vs the other that was off to the side.
Yep, I'm another HID ****. Do it right, or just don't do it. Yes, it costs more to do it right. So what?
Yep, I'm another HID ****. Do it right, or just don't do it. Yes, it costs more to do it right. So what?
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to the OP, no one believes in this. people will always say "its not that bad" or "mine are aimed down" or "my buddy drove in front and said they're okay". honestly though they look cheap as hell and they light BAD regardless. seriously just get colored halogens..am glad I retrofitted mine
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/facepalm
The "aim them down" was already addressed. Yeah, it is better than nothing, I guess, but still not right.
The worst offenders for HID reflector glare are HID in a housing that was designed for a dual filament low/high beam bulb. Excellent example of slight changes in positioning making a huge difference. Those reflectors have different reflection points for low and high beam, each focused for the low and high filaments. Those filaments are right next to each other. Now, take an HID, which only has one focal point, that is not exactly in the same spot as the low beam filament, and what do you think happens?
The "aim them down" was already addressed. Yeah, it is better than nothing, I guess, but still not right.
The worst offenders for HID reflector glare are HID in a housing that was designed for a dual filament low/high beam bulb. Excellent example of slight changes in positioning making a huge difference. Those reflectors have different reflection points for low and high beam, each focused for the low and high filaments. Those filaments are right next to each other. Now, take an HID, which only has one focal point, that is not exactly in the same spot as the low beam filament, and what do you think happens?
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meh, i personally have ran HIDs in my stock reflector headlights on two different camaros...I, however, didn't do it because it looked cool. I did it because the stock halogens were simply not bright enough for me...and in reality, the HIDs didn't help greatly either. It is a lot cheaper to run HIDs vs retrofitting a projector...so I can see why people do it.
I just put in a set of Sonars to help correct this issue...I have not installed HIDs and I will say that the light output is a lot better! I may put set of HIDs in it later.
I will say, what kills me is the people who put HIDs in the Fog Lights on a jacked up truck...they shine right in the back window of my car and in to the eyes of drivers...those need to be removed asap.
I just put in a set of Sonars to help correct this issue...I have not installed HIDs and I will say that the light output is a lot better! I may put set of HIDs in it later.
I will say, what kills me is the people who put HIDs in the Fog Lights on a jacked up truck...they shine right in the back window of my car and in to the eyes of drivers...those need to be removed asap.
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meh, i personally have ran HIDs in my stock reflector headlights on two different camaros...I, however, didn't do it because it looked cool. I did it because the stock halogens were simply not bright enough for me...and in reality, the HIDs didn't help greatly either. It is a lot cheaper to run HIDs vs retrofitting a projector...so I can see why people do it.
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meh, i personally have ran HIDs in my stock reflector headlights on two different camaros...I, however, didn't do it because it looked cool. I did it because the stock halogens were simply not bright enough for me...and in reality, the HIDs didn't help greatly either. It is a lot cheaper to run HIDs vs retrofitting a projector...so I can see why people do it.
I just put in a set of Sonars to help correct this issue...I have not installed HIDs and I will say that the light output is a lot better! I may put set of HIDs in it later.
I will say, what kills me is the people who put HIDs in the Fog Lights on a jacked up truck...they shine right in the back window of my car and in to the eyes of drivers...those need to be removed asap.
I just put in a set of Sonars to help correct this issue...I have not installed HIDs and I will say that the light output is a lot better! I may put set of HIDs in it later.
I will say, what kills me is the people who put HIDs in the Fog Lights on a jacked up truck...they shine right in the back window of my car and in to the eyes of drivers...those need to be removed asap.
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Not to jack a thread, but in my case I needed new headlight housings...mine were already hacked to **** from the previous owner...half the clips were broken, missing, inside the lens were scratched, etc. I was going to buy a new set of Depo whistlers but they were close to $200 and I wasn't too fond of breaking into those to install projectors. I found some Sonars, which come with the H1 bulbs for $150 give or take. They're not morimoto h1's or whatever the rage is these days, but i'd say they do a pretty good job. Much greater than any stock reflective housing w/ or w/o HIDs. The halos are ok, I did hook them up, but i'm not the biggest fan. I like the way the headlights look on the car during the daytime and have gotten many compliments in the short two weeks that i have had them on.
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and those 25 dollar kits are garbage, don't waste your money on them, sure they may be better then stock but they are garbage compared to a quality HID ballast, spend the money and you will see better output and whiter color from the same bulbs that came with the cheap kit. In my experience you have to go at least double that and even then it's touch and go, if you want true quality get the Morimoto 3Five ballasts (like I wish I had the budget for, but i've found some decent ones for now).
the point of this thread is to try to stop foolish idiots that are trying to "save a buck" from sticking those cheap piece of crap kits in there car because either you blind on coming cars due to having HIDs in Reflector housings (99-04 mustangs are some of the worst I've personally seen in this respect) or between the 8000k or higher bulb temp combined with the crappy ballasts your light output actually ends up WORSE then stock (which I have also seen around town, hids so purple they don't even go 25' in front of the car) I suspect the folks saying they had friends stand in front while driving by and it not bothering them fall into this category.
the point of this thread is to try to stop foolish idiots that are trying to "save a buck" from sticking those cheap piece of crap kits in there car because either you blind on coming cars due to having HIDs in Reflector housings (99-04 mustangs are some of the worst I've personally seen in this respect) or between the 8000k or higher bulb temp combined with the crappy ballasts your light output actually ends up WORSE then stock (which I have also seen around town, hids so purple they don't even go 25' in front of the car) I suspect the folks saying they had friends stand in front while driving by and it not bothering them fall into this category.
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or between the 8000k or higher bulb temp combined with the crappy ballasts your light output actually ends up WORSE then stock (which I have also seen around town, hids so purple they don't even go 25' in front of the car) I suspect the folks saying they had friends stand in front while driving by and it not bothering them fall into this category.