My bad you're right but I meant excessive glare which effects oncoming drivers.

I had LED foglight bulbs from Ebay last for 3 years in my G8 and they still worked when I traded it in on the Regal.

Obviously you don't understand what fog lights are used for. They aren't for illuminating the roadway ahead, thats what headlights are for. When it's foggy the bright light from the headlights reflects off the fog and cuts down your vision ahead. Foglights should illuminate lower than the headlights (near the ground) which allows you to see through the fog.

From the way you talk you have tried every LED on the market, which I find so hard to believe. So you can't say that they all don't work properly in halogen housings. Besides you don't understand the true purpose of foglights so what you say about LED bulbs is irrelevant.

 

No colonel sanders you're wrong, momma's right.

 

You don't need to illuminate the road for distance vision with turn signals / tail lights / markers. They just need to be uniform brightness and visible during day and night by other cars at sufficient distance for them to react (especially a noticeable difference between high/low in a dual filament setup.

However, funny as it may sound, I have seen some people use the front half of a projector as a "dummy" to turn into a turn signal. No it didn't help make them any more visible. It was done for aesthetics and not function.

Really, you post that and say I'm the one that doesn't know how fog lights work? Fog lights are not main beams. That is true. But they still must follow the same principles of a controlled beam pattern. A Fog Beam is low and wide below the main (low) beam. It still must have a controlled pattern. Also, the original intent for fog lights was low speed light in dense fog with the main (low) beam off. To help illuminate the road immediately in front of the car in low speed driving when the main (low) beams are reflected too much back at the driver due to the fog.

As for LED drop-in kits, no I haven't tested every kit out there and neither have you so that failing argument works both ways. Either way, it is still simple physics (optics). You can test that theory out by moving the bulb around in the housing and see what that does to the beam pattern. Although I have not personally tested every kit out there, I have seen output shots of most of them. There really are only a few designs that get copied and new names put on them.

As I've asked now 3 times, if you want to prove me wrong, provide proof instead of the "it looks good to me" argument.

If you find a kit that uses a virtual filament (light guide) that is properly aimed and has sufficient output and doesn't burn out from poor design, please show it. That is one scenario that might possibly work sufficiently as a drop-in kit (especially in comparison to the current crop). A virtual filament / light guide is a clear "lens" added to guide the light into a shape similar to the original filament. Look inside some clear candelabra LED bulbs and you'll see what I mean.

Something like this:
(this is a prototype that upashi was working on)



http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/show...adlight/page12

His experimentation showed promise. The beam's hot spot wasn't as bright/intense as the original bulb (although it was much whiter), but the pattern was much closer than any current drop-in kit. I'd like to see further progress on this prototype to increase output and bring it to market.

This is the principle behind that light guide:



Although the shape would have to be a bit different to match the original filament.

 

My LED foglight bulbs cast a low and wide beam below the main (low) beam and they do what they are supposed to so how do I lose that argument. It's obvious you don't have a clue about what you say here lol.

 

Dude, just give up, you are trying to argue lighting with the MOD who manages EVERYTHING LIGHTING RELATED on this site for like 8 years, your NOT gonna win. your LED's may produce an acceptable light light level for you but there designs prevents them from ACCURATELY recreating the PROPER light spread, this is simple physics, any other light is different then what the housings where designed for.

 

I've already won and I'm done wasting my time with this stupid thread. My LED foglight bulbs do what I intended them to do and I'm 100% happy with them which is all that matters.

 

You haven't won since you refuse to provide proof. "it looks good to me" isn't a wining argument.

Since you are done wasting everyone's time: Goodbye.

 

Those are the ones I was looking at. They look great. You need an LED license plate light now.

 

That will reduce the fog light to be just a DRL. They will be useless to emit any usable light for the road. That is why those are marketed as DRL.

 

Thanks, i just received one of those ebay led strips yesterday. Ill try it on this weekend and post some pics of that too

 

So i added the led strip last night.

Before


After




Looks pretty good IMO. I taped it to the top area of the bumper, and soldered the connections together and use pvc shrink tubing to keep them protected. Looks a bit more modern

 

Looks nicer than what I have. I just shoved a cheapo LED bulb in the socket. A bit more modern as it is white instead of yellow, but not very bright at all!

 

Thanks, i was considering a single led bulb aswell, but the strip was actually cheaper. And i have a bunch left over too lol.

I got the 5050 led strip. That one has about half the amount of LEDs per meter. That way its not way too bright at night.

 

Are they ran off a relay? I had that issue till I ran mine thru a relay

 

I like the white LEDs on the license plates. I cannot stand colored ones over them though. barf. they look sharp Zlow

 

I love bright lights, but the one I don't want too bright is the one over my plate

Good thread so far!

 

So last night i noticed the led strip was starting to fall off. I removed the dried up tape it came with, and used some 3M acrylic plus attachment tape to reapply the strip. I used this same stuff for badges and has held up great. So id highly recommend a stronger tape than the one it comes with.


You mean like a colored license plate light? Lol i dont think ive ever seen that
Thanks

Thanks, I dont like the light being too bright either, but i kinda looked at it from a farther distance last night, and i guess i pictured it a bit worse. However ebay has some dimmers that you splice into these led strips for about 5 bucks. Ive just never tried them

Heres a pic I took from a bit farther away.


Sorry for the crappy cell phone pics. Once i get my BLS kit, ill pull out the nikon.