Dual Action Buffer question.........
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Dual Action Buffer question......... If I use products like "H Speed" or "Victory Nano Polish and Seal", if thee paint looks perfect once I go over the whole car with it, is it really left with a protective coating for 4-5 months. Or do I still need to then put a coat of something like Meguiars Ultimate Wax on the clear coat by hand as usual?
I'm just curious if those two products actually leave sufficient protection behind after one pass......
I'm just curious if those two products actually leave sufficient protection behind after one pass......
I use lucas slick mist after i wash a car. For as easy to use as the stuff is it really seems to leave a nice protective coating on it. I use it on the glass also. I don't use the wipers when it rains now.
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Im just curious if the DA buffer type products is all you need to do.....ONE application. Is the clear coat protected as if a coat of Meguiars wax was put on the car?
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I don't use any of the products you mentioned but Carpro Essence is a very good ceramic based polish/ primer that gives very good gloss and will last longer than any meguiars wax.
Nothing i have seen on the market is a one application type thing......and I've done this stuff for 30+ years. Now the label might say it and if your car leads a pampered life you might get by with it for a while. But constant use takes constant maintenance.
Maguire's stuff is **** imo.....other than their run of the mill cleaner wax from walmart. That stuff is decent.
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I don't use a da buffer. Often wondered if they worked well. But typically i use transtar tri-cut for a compound then change from wool to foam pads accordingly. I'll finish off stuff i want really nice with 3m stage 2 then stage 3.
Nothing i have seen on the market is a one application type thing......and I've done this stuff for 30+ years. Now the label might say it and if your car leads a pampered life you might get by with it for a while. But constant use takes constant maintenance.
Maguire's stuff is **** imo.....other than their run of the mill cleaner wax from walmart. That stuff is decent.
Nothing i have seen on the market is a one application type thing......and I've done this stuff for 30+ years. Now the label might say it and if your car leads a pampered life you might get by with it for a while. But constant use takes constant maintenance.
Maguire's stuff is **** imo.....other than their run of the mill cleaner wax from walmart. That stuff is decent.
That’s why I want to try it out. My clear coat looks really damn nice but it can also use some minor paint correction too. I’ve seen cars before and after.....it makes them look like brand new paint jobs.
Ive used the Meguiars for a couple years now.....water beads and it stays in the car for a good 5 months....you can feel it’s still there with your fingernails....
But i want to use the DA and then also do a coat of something else after. I’m not buying it that it’s an all in one single pass deal....no way.
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ill check it out. But man....how can any product do both, slight compounding and leave a coat of real sealant?
Is Carpro applied with a DA buffer?
You know anything about Drive Auto Appearance.....Victory Nano Polish and Sealant.
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If I use products like "H Speed" or "Victory Nano Polish and Seal", if thee paint looks perfect once I go over the whole car with it, is it really left with a protective coating for 4-5 months. Or do I still need to then put a coat of something like Meguiars Ultimate Wax on the clear coat by hand as usual?
I'm just curious if those two products actually leave sufficient protection behind after one pass......
I'm just curious if those two products actually leave sufficient protection behind after one pass......
Durability is going to vary based on ones surrounding environment and how well the paint is cared for.
You have a link to the exact Carpro product?
ill check it out. But man....how can any product do both, slight compounding and leave a coat of real sealant?
Is Carpro applied with a DA buffer?
You know anything about Drive Auto Appearance.....Victory Nano Polish and Sealant.
ill check it out. But man....how can any product do both, slight compounding and leave a coat of real sealant?
Is Carpro applied with a DA buffer?
You know anything about Drive Auto Appearance.....Victory Nano Polish and Sealant.
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I have never used Essence by itself but use it on every job. Imo Carpro absolutley nailed it with Essence.
I agree Essence is a great finishing polish in prep for one of their coatings. Essence Plus is the hydrophobic version and there are some that use Essence topped with Essence Plus, using Essence Plus as a sealant.Essence Plus is ok in my experience.
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Ok.....so I need to buy a correction product. Should I go with Carpro Essence after I clay the car? Then Carpro Essence Plus as the sealant afterwards?
Is this a combo that customers pay good money for......?
Is this a combo that customers pay good money for......?
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You could do Essence followed by any wax, sealant or coating of your choice.
If you already bought the products in your original post then you have no need for either of these.
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If you finish with Essence you don't "have to" put anything on it but it's recommend to top it with Reload. Reload has better contact and sliding angles. It mimics as if the car was coated.
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Amazing results. I started a thread with pictures.
Question now......how long will it protect. Hopefully 3-4 months until it needs another coat.
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If it's a carnauba wax..... maybe a week or two.
If it's a sealant..... anywhere from 1 month to 4 months+.
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My car is parked inside a parking garage, so only in the sun/rain when I drive it. The water kept beading up pretty good after 5-6 months with just my Meguiars Ultimate Wax.
This stuff I just used says "long-Lasting" Carnuba protection........LOL....not that I believe all the marketing BS from any company. Thats why in my other thread I kept asking everyone if I need to use a sealant AFTER I use one of these Paint Correction type products. I guess if Carnuba is crap for longevity I'll put a coat off my Meguiars on this weekend, over what I just did.
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98CayenneT/A,
I know you mentioned you don't like Meguiars, but it absolutely lasts 5-6 months on my car. Beading water, feeling nice and smooth by touch, etc....
If I put the Meguiars on my Orbital pad, along with the Griots 3-in-1 and applied it to the car.....would that leave the protection of the Meguiars product on the car after removing everything, as well and doing its job as a paid (clear) correction product?
If that will work, what's your best choice for a final sealant product to apply to the car? Maybe after this bottle of Meguiars runs out I'll go with a better product.
I know you mentioned you don't like Meguiars, but it absolutely lasts 5-6 months on my car. Beading water, feeling nice and smooth by touch, etc....
If I put the Meguiars on my Orbital pad, along with the Griots 3-in-1 and applied it to the car.....would that leave the protection of the Meguiars product on the car after removing everything, as well and doing its job as a paid (clear) correction product?
If that will work, what's your best choice for a final sealant product to apply to the car? Maybe after this bottle of Meguiars runs out I'll go with a better product.