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Old 02-11-2005, 12:47 PM
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Default Out of Zaino, need new supplies, suggestions?

I've used up all of my Zaino and figured I might give some other stuff a try. I need a claybar, car wash, and whatever type of paint stuff I need (polish, wax, etc). I'm thinking of just going local and picking up some Meguiars stuff like their Gold Class wash, Color X, and some NXT along with a Clay Magic claybar. I'm doing this all by hand but have been contemplating buying one of those electric buffers from Walmart as well (I know its nowhere near the best, but I figure it would be better than by hand). My car isn't a show car and I dont want to spend a ton of money, as it already has tons of spider-web type scratches in it anyways, but if I could get it looking better that is always a plus. Thanks for any suggestions and I'm open to pretty much anything that will get my car looking better.
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i picked up some meguires color X, NXT, and clay bar last year and have been very happy with them. for the price they are hard to beat
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Mother's has a whole new line that is supposed to be pretty good.

If I were buying locally only, I would get a Clay Magic claybar, NXT car wash, Meguiar's ScratchX or ColorX, Mother's Reflections wax, and Mother's Showtime Instant Detailer.

I wouldn't even waste money on a cheap buffer...save up for a Porter Cable ($100).
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Originally Posted by ZaneO
Mother's has a whole new line that is supposed to be pretty good.

If I were buying locally only, I would get a Clay Magic claybar, NXT car wash, Meguiar's ScratchX or ColorX, Mother's Reflections wax, and Mother's Showtime Instant Detailer.

I wouldn't even waste money on a cheap buffer...save up for a Porter Cable ($100).
Why do you say this? What are the differences b/w a porter cable and a regular buffer?
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There's a HUGE difference; more powerful motor, variable speeds, quick change backing plates which allow many different pads, etc.
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I just went to my local Oreilly's and bought Meguiars Deep Crystal System (paint cleaner, polish, carnauba wax) Meguiars Quik clay bar with detailing spray Meguiars Gold Class rich leather cleaner and conditioner 3 new micro fiber towels, and 4 was application pads for $42.57 I will post up once I use them and tell how they worked out.
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I'd invest in some
3m pre wax cleaner
3m finesse II
NXT
and a 6 inch buffer from sears works great for me.
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3M stuff is good........actually I really like there compund the best.
I have always used Mothers wax, I have there whole line.
I havent used much of it since buying Zaino, now I have Zaino's entire line of products. Very happy with it.


But, if mothers has a new line, I MAAAAAAY have to take a look at it


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I'd invest in some
3m pre wax cleaner
3m finesse II
NXT
and a 6 inch buffer from sears works great for me.
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3m stuff is good but you have a hard time findin the 16 oz bottles. If your going with OTC products id get a swirl remover like Megs9, then the glaze 7, then the NXT. Sometimes you can find a paint and body store that carries meguiars 80 id substitute that 7 for the 80. Still do the 9 if you havent ever removed swirls from your finish before.
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I used a claybar and Zymol- it's in the light blue bottle. Some micro fibre cloths and a day in the shade. My garage queen has never looked glossier!!!
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Also, I would hesitate on using ANY kind of buffer. Most everyone I know has f@#$ed their paint with swirl marks. Not worth the trouble IMO.
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Originally Posted by FIREHAWK#608
Also, I would hesitate on using ANY kind of buffer. Most everyone I know has f@#$ed their paint with swirl marks. Not worth the trouble IMO.
It is almost COMPLETELY IMPOSSIBLE to harm paint with a random orbital buffer, unless you drop it on the paint or something stupid like that.

Lumping all buffers into one group is like saying all GM vechicles are the same. Kinda silly.
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yea i got rid of most my swirls after using my buffer with finesse II
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Originally Posted by FIREHAWK#608
Also, I would hesitate on using ANY kind of buffer. Most everyone I know has f@#$ed their paint with swirl marks. Not worth the trouble IMO.

this is why you go orbital.
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Originally Posted by SSactionLs1
this is why you go orbital.

What is the difference?
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Originally Posted by FIREHAWK#608
Also, I would hesitate on using ANY kind of buffer. Most everyone I know has f@#$ed their paint with swirl marks. Not worth the trouble IMO.

I havent had that problem with my buffer.
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Originally Posted by Slammed-am
What is the difference?
a PC is a random orbital it basically oscillates, works great & is for everyone.

A buffer or polisher is great for removing paint imperfections that a PC or porter cable cant do. More for professional use or for experienced people/detailers.
the porter cable is no doubt a great maching and you can do amazing things with it. I personally feel that working with a rotory gives me better results.
Call me crazy i guess
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I'm gonna polish my car with a 9" Sears buffer tommorow, does anyone have any advice? Any warning of caution?
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Originally Posted by Slammed-am
I'm gonna polish my car with a 9" Sears buffer tommorow, does anyone have any advice? Any warning of caution?
Variable speed I hope, go Sloooooooow. Even if you have to do it twice.

I have seen many p-jobs f-up b/c of high-speed detailing. Let the buffer do all the work. Personally, I don't buff unless a total strip is in order. Usually only once over a 5-6 period. Just my own thoughts and version of detailing.
Others will argue, but this whole "detailing" issue is subjective.

Good luck
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Most cheaper buffers only have one speed..."ON."

As long as it's an orbital buffer, it's nearly impossible to burn the paint. They just don't generate the required heat. There isn't really anything subjective about that.



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