Two shades of NBM???
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Two shades of NBM??? I just got the liscense filler painted to match the wife's car, a 2002 NBM Firebird. I gave the shop the filler piece, the VIN number, and when I got it back, it looks VERY different from her car. In DIRECT sunlight, you can see the brightest part of the blue is the same, but this new piece seems to not be as dark....
On a related note, I seem to think that her paint seems more...purple...at times compared to the blue/true navy I see on other people's cars.
Any truth to this? Are there two shades of NBM through the years it was made??
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On a related note, I seem to think that her paint seems more...purple...at times compared to the blue/true navy I see on other people's cars.
Any truth to this? Are there two shades of NBM through the years it was made??
TIA
Jeremy
Nope, just one NBM. Either they messed it up just slightly, or more likely, the paint on her car has faded slightly over the years and looks different. Whenever you're having something painted for your car, never have them just use the original paint. Instead, have them match the paint on the car.
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Originally Posted by Scotty-Z
Nope, just one NBM. Either they messed it up just slightly, or more likely, the paint on her car has faded slightly over the years and looks different. Whenever you're having something painted for your car, never have them just use the original paint. Instead, have them match the paint on the car.
There actually is 2 different shades of NMB that was used on the 98+ f body. I know because I had to leave the paint store and get the exact paint code of the car to make sure I had the correct one.
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Originally Posted by stryker14
There actually is 2 different shades of NMB that was used on the 98+ f body. I know because I had to leave the paint store and get the exact paint code of the car to make sure I had the correct one.
Jeremy
Originally Posted by herronz28
Tell me more!!! Where did you find this out, and do you know the two different paint codes??? I knew it!!!
Jeremy
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Originally Posted by Scotty-Z
Nope, just one NBM. Either they messed it up just slightly, or more likely, the paint on her car has faded slightly over the years and looks different. Whenever you're having something painted for your car, never have them just use the original paint. Instead, have them match the paint on the car.
Um wrong, their is 6 different value shades of NMB through Dupont it's where the paint altered in metalics, pearl and base thickness. Own body shop, different values **** me off door code has exact number
Yes, there are 2 shades. Most are the same, but a few have a "flip-flop" to them, mine is one of them. When my car is next to any other NBM it looks noticabily different. My car looks blue, deep purple, or even black depending on light. I get compliments from other F-Body owners on it all the time.
I have a 2000 NBM TA and people always call it purple. It absolutely looks different when dark outside, or under different lights.
I'd be curious to see if GM actually did use two different shades. I don't doubt that there can be many shades of the color by Dupont, PPG, etc, but did GM specifically use two different ones?
Don't know if GM would use two RPO's? Checking out GMVIS right now, it shows for my VIN:
28U - PAINT, NAVY BLUE METALLIC
If other people have a 98-02 Firebird or Trans Am in NBM, check your RPO sticker on the door and post the color RPO, or I could check your VIN in VIS if your sticker is missing. The color RPO is usually near the end of the list and they are all usually the same format for exterior color--two digits then a letter.
If someone else has an NBM Pontiac F-body with a number other than 28U, that would answer the question.
I'd be curious to see if GM actually did use two different shades. I don't doubt that there can be many shades of the color by Dupont, PPG, etc, but did GM specifically use two different ones?
Don't know if GM would use two RPO's? Checking out GMVIS right now, it shows for my VIN:
28U - PAINT, NAVY BLUE METALLIC
If other people have a 98-02 Firebird or Trans Am in NBM, check your RPO sticker on the door and post the color RPO, or I could check your VIN in VIS if your sticker is missing. The color RPO is usually near the end of the list and they are all usually the same format for exterior color--two digits then a letter.
If someone else has an NBM Pontiac F-body with a number other than 28U, that would answer the question.
The paint shop could have used the correct paint for the panel but it will still won't match exactly. There is no way to duplicate exactly the conditions when our cars were painted at GM. Little things can make a big difference and it shows in the paint once it has cured. The only way to match it up and make it look closer would be to blend the hatch and bumper... I don't think any of us would want to do that though.
I've had to have my front bumper repainted twice. Both times was because of others backing into me or when the mechanic shop messed it up. Both times they used the correct paint but different results after it was done. The 1st time the red on the bumper looked lighter but it was blended so noone could notice but me. The last time it was darker and blended but yet again I can tell (When I polish the car and shine it up I can't notice it). The only way to get it right would be to repaint the whole car.
I've had to have my front bumper repainted twice. Both times was because of others backing into me or when the mechanic shop messed it up. Both times they used the correct paint but different results after it was done. The 1st time the red on the bumper looked lighter but it was blended so noone could notice but me. The last time it was darker and blended but yet again I can tell (When I polish the car and shine it up I can't notice it). The only way to get it right would be to repaint the whole car.
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Well, I know there are at least 3 different shades of NBM. Not sure how many of them were used on f-bodies. I know because I had access to 2 different codes, and when I asked the guy whos lid I painted what his paint code was, he told me, and it was different from the 2 I already had. So I can tell you there are at least 3... I don't have the code#'s with me here at work, but if you'd like, I can get the 2 I have when I get home tonight...
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Originally Posted by 01 Red WS6
The paint shop could have used the correct paint for the panel but it will still won't match exactly. There is no way to duplicate exactly the conditions when our cars were painted at GM. Little things can make a big difference and it shows in the paint once it has cured. The only way to match it up and make it look closer would be to blend the hatch and bumper... I don't think any of us would want to do that though.
There is basically no way you are going to get an EXACT match on a metallic color because as already stated there are too many variables. Just one example would be the speed at which the painter was moving the gun across the surface. The slower he goes, the more metallic flakes are deposited. This can affect how the paint looks. Another is air pressure. Humidity too. This is why blending is used whenever possible so that there is not a distinct line between panels. All blending does is "trick" the eye into believing it is one continuous color.
Originally Posted by LvDemKings
Most of the time mine looks purple, except for when it's in some good light like before sunset then it's beautiful
Here's some examples of mine in different light (time of day). The variables shades is what I love about NBM.
Originally Posted by parbreak
There is basically no way you are going to get an EXACT match on a metallic color because as already stated there are too many variables.
