jorgez28

Ok i HAVE bubbles and some have popped But I have one question why did my 1994 Z not have this problem but the 2000 does???????

99zee

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A different glue was probably used. My bubbles didn't appear until late. They are really bad now. I will fix it one of these days. Car doesn't get driven much, but when I pull the cover off to drive it Some have been lucky with the dealer fixing this. Like stated above this has been a rant for years!

SsycoticSS

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go get 36 grit sandpaper and go to town on it.

It will look better, I swear.
































P.S. I am JUST kidding. I know the feeling with the damned bubbles and/ orange peel.. Its a PITA

ReFtheMC

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Subscribes...

INMY01TA

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GM fixed mine out of warranty. I was gonna pay to have it done myself tho. I was quoted $850. To everyone bitching, this is what extended warranty is for. I'm sure they tried to sell it to all of you.

JohnS

Here's link to some pic's of my roof repair. It's been about 4 years since the repair was done, per the TSB, and the bubbles haven't returned.

Roof Repair

jorgez28

so can any body shop take care of this and fix it so that the bubbles don't come back???

99zee

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Yes, as long as they replace the roof panel and use the proper glue

JohnS

.... and the proper primer on the underside of the roof panel to prevent the glue leaching through the panel.

sills1

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I wonder why someone hasn't asked Scott Settlemier to help all of us enthusiasts out. He is someone that GM would listen to. If someone sees him at a show, ask him about it, maybe he will help.

Adam_346

im in the same wagon as all of you

Loochy88

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Ok, so today i called the customer assistance line with GM 1800 222 1020. They got all of my information and opened up case 71-550-545-941 after I explained the problem. The put me in touch wiht Chad Penton at 1-866-790-5600 ext 11955 and he took the number on the bulliten and the description of the problem. Unbelieveably, he went back to the so called experienced service manager at the dealership and asked them if they had seen the problem before, and of course this guy said no. Chad told me at first that this bulliten must not be a GM bulliten and must just be from a private shop or something of that nature, and GM is not aware of the problem. Looks like gm customer assistance got me nowhere. Case 71-550-545-941 officially closed.

If anyone would like to call Chad tonight or next week, and let him know about your problem as well, that would be nice.

Has anyone ever called this 1800 222 1020 number and actually got their problem fixed? If so, do you still have a case number that we poor fools could use as a reference when we call in?

I need the number to the BBB.

Loochy88

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honestly, i doubt he cares. im sure he's got his hands full trying to hype new models and isnt too worried about the paint defects on a few 8 year old cars.

SpdFrk1990

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This hasnt happened to mine yet and hope is never does.

Jeremiah

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Some of the replaced roofs are having the same problem again. There still using windshield urithane on the replacements only the primer/ahesion promoter was a sepperate step with the older urithane, the newer has it mixed in the adhesive. Other than the sepperate primer/adhesion promoter the replacements are done exactly as the originals. When I say "primer" I dont mean the primer used for refinishing/painting, its a brush on self etching adhesion promoter to help the urithane adhere.

I said over a year ago that we would probably see the same problem on the cars that have had there roof replaced...

A panel bonding adhesive would work fine since it is also used and has been time tested with SMC composit. The problem is it cost $4.00 for a tube of windshield urithane and approx. $38.00 for one tube of panel bonding. It would also take a few tubes of panel bonding where it only takes approx. 1.5 tubes of urithane.

If anyone has there roof replaced I would pay the difference and have them use a panel bonding adhesive like the 3M Automix. This would ensure that you wouldnt have to worry about the problem returning down the road.

INMY01TA

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Where are you getting this from? I've never heard of one recurrence. Had mine done 3 years ago and it still looks good.

Jeremiah

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Two of my friends that had theres warrentied are having bubbles show up again around the outer edge of the roof where the bead of windshield urithane is. Theres were replaced around the same time I replaced both of mine and that was approx. three years ago. I no longer own ither of those cars so I couldnt say if they also have the problem again.

The service bulletin shows the exact same procedure and materials that were originally used so its only a matter of time before we start seeing the problem return. Like I said before the only difference in the old and new glue is the windshield urithane used now has the primer mixed with it. The older used a sepperate primer but still the same chemical make up.

I said years ago that unless the sepperate primer its self was the problem then we would see the problem return down the road.