Yank SS3600 or SS4000??
Yes, i've had both converters, hit the SS3600 out of the hole with a 150 shot, stuck a 1.43 60' on 275/50/15's - (26" tall). 
so with the right suspension, you should have no problem hooking that car.
so with the right suspension, you should have no problem hooking that car.
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I eventually plan to go back to a set of QA1's. Sold mine years ago when i switched to Autocross/road racing and went with Koni adjustables.
Just need to find a deal on some used ones.
Rest of the suspension is all BMR with rod ends.
Just need to find a deal on some used ones.
Rest of the suspension is all BMR with rod ends.
Here is my setup. H/C 420hp/380tq.,3.73 gears,Level 5 FLT,SS4000 converter,run 16"x10.5 ET streets,3600lbs
Detuned to run the 11.5 class but hit a 11.3 at 118mph with a 1.53 60' at +1500 DA.
Out of 25-30 passes the car has not spun yet out of the hole on those small tires.Always 1.52 - 1.62 60's depending on DA.
As for drivability sometimes I feel it's too loose and sometimes I like it.Depends on my mood.I do have the converter locking at 40mph which helps alot in daily driving.
Shiftpoints are at 6600rpm and it barely drops under 6k,maybe 5800 the lowest.
Detuned to run the 11.5 class but hit a 11.3 at 118mph with a 1.53 60' at +1500 DA.
Out of 25-30 passes the car has not spun yet out of the hole on those small tires.Always 1.52 - 1.62 60's depending on DA.
As for drivability sometimes I feel it's too loose and sometimes I like it.Depends on my mood.I do have the converter locking at 40mph which helps alot in daily driving.
Shiftpoints are at 6600rpm and it barely drops under 6k,maybe 5800 the lowest.
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Here is my setup. H/C 420hp/380tq.,3.73 gears,Level 5 FLT,SS4000 converter,run 16"x10.5 ET streets,3600lbs
Detuned to run the 11.5 class but hit a 11.3 at 118mph with a 1.53 60' at +1500 DA.
Out of 25-30 passes the car has not spun yet out of the hole on those small tires.Always 1.52 - 1.62 60's depending on DA.
As for drivability sometimes I feel it's too loose and sometimes I like it.Depends on my mood.I do have the converter locking at 40mph which helps alot in daily driving.
Shiftpoints are at 6600rpm and it barely drops under 6k,maybe 5800 the lowest.
Detuned to run the 11.5 class but hit a 11.3 at 118mph with a 1.53 60' at +1500 DA.
Out of 25-30 passes the car has not spun yet out of the hole on those small tires.Always 1.52 - 1.62 60's depending on DA.
As for drivability sometimes I feel it's too loose and sometimes I like it.Depends on my mood.I do have the converter locking at 40mph which helps alot in daily driving.
Shiftpoints are at 6600rpm and it barely drops under 6k,maybe 5800 the lowest.
How much are you pulling out or was the 11.3 with the full on tune?Thanks for the info.
I've owned a SS3600 and a PT4000. The SS3600 was awesome but there's a reason I switched to the PT4000, I wanted more. The shift extension was too low with the 3600 and the PT4000 has my extensions at 5600rpm on 6400 shifts. I've been told a 800rpm window is money and it seems to work nicely for me so I can't complain. You definetly know the stall is there, people stop what there doing and stare when I drive down the road cause it sounds like I'm doing 70 when I'm doing 35. All in all I love both but would recommend the SS4000 over the SS3600 and if you decide to skip on the juice I'd get the PT4000 without question over both. Big stalled cars are a blast to drive and with the right gear they drive extremely reasonable on the street.
I still find the PT4000 > SS4000 argument hard to believe, especially after running my times with the SS4000, save the extra money and ignore the marketing hype the PT4000 = SS4000…
I mean does anyone really think I would run better times than I have already with a PT4000…
I mean does anyone really think I would run better times than I have already with a PT4000…
I've owned a SS3600 and a PT4000. The SS3600 was awesome but there's a reason I switched to the PT4000, I wanted more. The shift extension was too low with the 3600 and the PT4000 has my extensions at 5600rpm on 6400 shifts. I've been told a 800rpm window is money and it seems to work nicely for me so I can't complain. You definetly know the stall is there, people stop what there doing and stare when I drive down the road cause it sounds like I'm doing 70 when I'm doing 35. All in all I love both but would recommend the SS4000 over the SS3600 and if you decide to skip on the juice I'd get the PT4000 without question over both. Big stalled cars are a blast to drive and with the right gear they drive extremely reasonable on the street.
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I still find the PT4000 > SS4000 argument hard to believe, especially after running my times with the SS4000, save the extra money and ignore the marketing hype the PT4000 = SS4000…
I mean does anyone really think I would run better times than I have already with a PT4000…
I mean does anyone really think I would run better times than I have already with a PT4000…
yeah but Larry from speed inc has and had the exact same results...well i guess i will have to do the swap now too huh...he also ran a pt4400 and his times were worse than the 4000's...
what do you think I will 60ft with the PT4000…if you are not aware a 1.38 is insane for a cam only car weighing 3275lb with a stock 3.23 gear on drag radials…
But i guess until i make the swap it is just an opinion like everyone else's that the PT is far superior...
what do you think I will 60ft with the PT4000…if you are not aware a 1.38 is insane for a cam only car weighing 3275lb with a stock 3.23 gear on drag radials…
But i guess until i make the swap it is just an opinion like everyone else's that the PT is far superior...
Since we are talking about the SS series...does anyone know how much hp these converters can handle?
It doesn't hurt to use a 100 shot or 200 shot?
If I were to use a D1SC Procharger would the SS4000 be too big?
It doesn't hurt to use a 100 shot or 200 shot?
If I were to use a D1SC Procharger would the SS4000 be too big?
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You bring up my original dilema..... I am concerned that a combo on motor making ~450-470 rwhp then getting hit with a 100 shot would not work well with the SS4000. I don't know for sure if I am going to spray it or when, but don't want to drop $725 and find out it won't work. OR drop $725 and not spray it and wish I bought the 4000 instead of the 3600..... Decisions, decisions.........
Yes im sure it would be able to handle it, and for a boosted car I think the 4000 is to much Id look for a 3400 or 3600.
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The converter would be able to handle it fine, it would just be a question of if the addition hp from the spray would effectively raise the stall to far beyond 4000. Since the stall is dependant on hp and all the other variables of the car.
yeah but Larry from speed inc has and had the exact same results...well i guess i will have to do the swap now too huh...he also ran a pt4400 and his times were worse than the 4000's...
what do you think I will 60ft with the PT4000…if you are not aware a 1.38 is insane for a cam only car weighing 3275lb with a stock 3.23 gear on drag radials…
But i guess until i make the swap it is just an opinion like everyone else's that the PT is far superior...
what do you think I will 60ft with the PT4000…if you are not aware a 1.38 is insane for a cam only car weighing 3275lb with a stock 3.23 gear on drag radials…
But i guess until i make the swap it is just an opinion like everyone else's that the PT is far superior...
Anway, I am getting ready to pick up another yank, probably another ss4000. I know it works.
Dammmmmmm, thats a small rpm window. Is 800 or so supposed to be the magic number? Yours sounds the most similar to what my car will be. I however won't be detuned..... I want to ring that sucker out. How much are you pulling out or was the 11.3 with the full on tune?
Thanks for the info.
How much are you pulling out or was the 11.3 with the full on tune?Thanks for the info.
Damn,would be nice to get my race weight to 3250lbs and run in -400DA's fully tuned.I'd click off easy 10.5's.
The biggest thing to compare for times is HP/TQ,race weight and DA.It can add up to a huge swing in track times.
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It was detuned to 395rwhp on that run.The cooler weather made it run too fast.
Damn,would be nice to get my race weight to 3250lbs and run in -400DA's fully tuned.I'd click off easy 10.5's.
The biggest thing to compare for times is HP/TQ,race weight and DA.It can add up to a huge swing in track times.
Damn,would be nice to get my race weight to 3250lbs and run in -400DA's fully tuned.I'd click off easy 10.5's.
The biggest thing to compare for times is HP/TQ,race weight and DA.It can add up to a huge swing in track times.
Well, Piggy will be heavy 3700-3800# race weight, but hoping power will be at least in the 450-470 rwhp range.... high 10's would be nice, but probably only going to see low 11's????
That is the only reason i would spray it.... to see a 10 sec slip. .... well, maybe not the ONLY reason...
but would be much more likely to not spray it if I could get a high 10 NA. I still find the PT4000 > SS4000 argument hard to believe, especially after running my times with the SS4000, save the extra money and ignore the marketing hype the PT4000 = SS4000…
I mean does anyone really think I would run better times than I have already with a PT4000…
I mean does anyone really think I would run better times than I have already with a PT4000…
Only one way to find out!...IIRC, the last time I looked at the fastest LS1 list most were running PT converters. Dave at Yank claims it's better N/A than the SS4000 and considering my restall costed the same whether I went to an SS4000 or a PT4000 and he recommended the PT4000 for my setup I venture it's probaly better N/A. Every setup and car is different but I'm more impressed with what I've seen from the PT line and love the way the stall is so I'm thrilled with my choice. Theres a local guy with a very similar LT1 setup as I and he has an SS4000 so when we get to the track it will be interesting to compare everything. One thing I can say is that the SS4000 has no chance from a roll against a PT4000 and for me that's kinda important which was a big reason I tried the PT line. I have noticed it doesn't hit the tires as hard down low but that makes me happy because I couldnt keep the car on the road before lol.
and anytime you are in the area i will give you a quick run and show you how an SS4000 can go from a roll
and get some mt drag radials on that car so you can actually enjoy that stall...trust me it is a whole different feeling, i will never go back to street tires...