FLP level4 and SS3800 in..got an SES!
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FLP level4 and SS3800 in..got an SES! Drove it for about 10 minutes, everything was fine, then I get an SES.
After the SES tripped, I had no overdrive or converter lock-up.
Scanned it with EASE and it was PO757..2-3 shift solenoid stuck on.
What do you guys think, bad solenoid? Came unplugged? Any ideas? Is it in the valve body accessible by removing the pan?
Thanks.
After the SES tripped, I had no overdrive or converter lock-up.
Scanned it with EASE and it was PO757..2-3 shift solenoid stuck on.
What do you guys think, bad solenoid? Came unplugged? Any ideas? Is it in the valve body accessible by removing the pan?
Thanks.
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I also posted it on the truck board, Stupidfast said its normal for that loose of a stall and it disables1st and 4th gear and tcc lockup.
I just erased the code and disabled it with edit, this should take care of it.
I just erased the code and disabled it with edit, this should take care of it.
Good luck... Seems only Yanks have this problem. I used to get this with my St3500. Since getting rid of the Yank, I have never had any more issues. I switched to a Vig3200 and had no problems. I stepped up to a TCI 4400 and still have no problems. There is NOTHING wrong with your car. If you don't believe me, then try another converter and watch the issues go away. They will tell you it is line pressure or your tranny is bad. I went through all of this once.
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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
I never had that code with my FLP level IV + Yank TP4500 combo.
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Originally Posted by Dom
Shift solenoids are extremely easy to change. Get some new ones and swap them.
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Originally Posted by 2001 Pewter WS6
It won't fix the problem... Put your stock converter back in and see if you get the same problem. If it is actually a bad solenoid then you will continue to have the SES light with your stock converter. If I was a gambling man I would bet the farm that your tranny is fine. Trust me I learned from experience and wasting a lot of money...
If that was me I'd rather try the shift solenoids first. 10seconds of work with a screw driver or pay $250 to have the stock verter put in and then again $250 to swap it back.
"Trust me I learned from experience and wasting a lot of money..."
So you want him to waste his money and then learn from experience too?
At least if it's not the shift solenoids then he isn't out $500. But if it's not the converter he is out $500.
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Well, I erased the code with ease and all my gears are back. Everythings normal.
Must be some sort of limp mode that the trans goes into, not something wrong with the solenoid.
Must be some sort of limp mode that the trans goes into, not something wrong with the solenoid.
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If that was me I'd rather try the shift solenoids first. 10seconds of work with a screw driver or pay $250 to have the stock verter put in and then again $250 to swap it back.
"Trust me I learned from experience and wasting a lot of money..."
So you want him to waste his money and then learn from experience too?
At least if it's not the shift solenoids then he isn't out $500. But if it's not the converter he is out $500.
"Trust me I learned from experience and wasting a lot of money..."
So you want him to waste his money and then learn from experience too?
At least if it's not the shift solenoids then he isn't out $500. But if it's not the converter he is out $500.
How I wasted money was doing all what Mike from Yank said. I changed solenoids, raised line pressure and so forth. Nothing fixed the problem. That is speaking from experience. I am trying to help him to the resolve the problem. Why waste $250 on paying someone to swap the converters?? You could do it yourself. It isn't that hard, I did it using jack stands of my F-Body in 2 1/2 hours. He has a truck with a ton more room under it...
Never the less, I am not trying to get into a pissing contest with anyone. I would lie to know what you end up doing to resolve the problem. Keep us posted.
Originally Posted by Black Blown 02
Well, I erased the code with ease and all my gears are back. Everythings normal.
Must be some sort of limp mode that the trans goes into, not something wrong with the solenoid.
Must be some sort of limp mode that the trans goes into, not something wrong with the solenoid.
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I had a similar SES light problem as soon as I put in my PT4200. Turned the code off and everything was fine. I've read that the newer the car is, the more likely it is not going to tolerate a high stall converter without throwing codes. I'm not sure if there is any truth to this, but I've read it a few times.
I had the 1-2 sticking with my TCI 3800. Moved my shiftpoints a little to hold 1st and 2nd a little longer - it has not come back in yet - about 100 miles since done.
Originally Posted by BLK02WS6
I had the 1-2 sticking with my TCI 3800. Moved my shiftpoints a little to hold 1st and 2nd a little longer - it has not come back in yet - about 100 miles since done.
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Sorry I didn't see this earlier or I would have saved you some time. REPLACE the 2-3 solenoid. 
Been there done that after 14K mile of SY3500 abuse to my stock tranny. The 2-3 is the most common one to go. The same converter with an additional 18K miles in with the FLP Level 4 has never caused the code again.
It's an annoying error that occurs when the solenoid fails to activate in a timely manner for the shift. Tranny does a lock out in some cases. The lockout may clear after the car sits off for about 10 minutes even though the code will still be there.
You can always clear the code and keep running it which I did for 2 months on my old tranny before we put in the new FLP Level 4. However, with money invested in the FLP now, I would get it swapped out and enjoy your new converter and tranny combo.
Rick
Been there done that after 14K mile of SY3500 abuse to my stock tranny. The 2-3 is the most common one to go. The same converter with an additional 18K miles in with the FLP Level 4 has never caused the code again.It's an annoying error that occurs when the solenoid fails to activate in a timely manner for the shift. Tranny does a lock out in some cases. The lockout may clear after the car sits off for about 10 minutes even though the code will still be there.
You can always clear the code and keep running it which I did for 2 months on my old tranny before we put in the new FLP Level 4. However, with money invested in the FLP now, I would get it swapped out and enjoy your new converter and tranny combo.
Rick
Originally Posted by 2001-WS6
Sorry I didn't see this earlier or I would have saved you some time. REPLACE the 2-3 solenoid. Been there done that after 14K mile of SY3500 abuse to my stock tranny. The 2-3 is the most common one to go. The same converter with an additional 18K miles in with the FLP Level 4 has never caused the code again.
It's an annoying error that occurs when the solenoid fails to activate in a timely manner for the shift. Tranny does a lock out in some cases. The lockout may clear after the car sits off for about 10 minutes even though the code will still be there.
You can always clear the code and keep running it which I did for 2 months on my old tranny before we put in the new FLP Level 4. However, with money invested in the FLP now, I would get it swapped out and enjoy your new converter and tranny combo.
Rick
Been there done that after 14K mile of SY3500 abuse to my stock tranny. The 2-3 is the most common one to go. The same converter with an additional 18K miles in with the FLP Level 4 has never caused the code again.It's an annoying error that occurs when the solenoid fails to activate in a timely manner for the shift. Tranny does a lock out in some cases. The lockout may clear after the car sits off for about 10 minutes even though the code will still be there.
You can always clear the code and keep running it which I did for 2 months on my old tranny before we put in the new FLP Level 4. However, with money invested in the FLP now, I would get it swapped out and enjoy your new converter and tranny combo.
Rick
Where are they - external? Do you replace them with GM parts, or does someone make better ones?