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Old 12-24-2009, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by LS1 Sounds
Correct, but I can't remember which years have which behavior. My 2002 holds 2nd with the selector in 2nd, but my 1998 didn't and started in 1st with the selector in 2nd.

I want to say 98/99 would start in 1st regardless but then in 00 it chaged and would do what you wanted.
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Originally Posted by Aaron91RS
WTF does my ability to combine parts most people can't have to do with anything about a stall.
Just taking a shot at you because you come in here (auto trans board, in case you got lost) with your 6 speed car, claiming:

You're going to flash to a high RPM only to have the cam peter out 1500rpms later
ONLY a 1500rpm usable powerband huh?

The RS part was just an old TGO thing.
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Originally Posted by lemons12
I want to say 98/99 would start in 1st regardless but then in 00 it chaged and would do what you wanted.
That sounds right, I think it was 2000 that they started the 2nd gear start option. I made a mistake at the track and launched in 2nd, stock converter and was a full second slower than my best (in sig).

The trucks like my 06 Silverado also have the 2nd gear start and so did the 03 Astro work van I used to drive. The truck will kick down to first on it's own after a second when hammering on it.
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Originally Posted by rtr2001ss
That sounds right, I think it was 2000 that they started the 2nd gear start option. I made a mistake at the track and launched in 2nd, stock converter and was a full second slower than my best (in sig).

The trucks like my 06 Silverado also have the 2nd gear start and so did the 03 Astro work van I used to drive. The truck will kick down to first on it's own after a second when hammering on it.
Mine will stay in second even when hammered on, here's a vid with a 20 mph punch with the trans locked in 2nd with a 3200 stall

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=napcHyy5WZA
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I was just saying my truck did, not the Z. The Z launched and stayed in second on my bonehead pass at the track.
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Sorry guys completely forgot about this thread after the holidays etc. After reading through everyones replies it seems I will def need a tune that fine as there are multiple good tuners here in south fl. So lets say I did keep the stock gears for now, could a 3600-4000 with a high str such as a yank stall be driven with them or totally not probable? From the vids ive seen and comments read it takes about 2000-2500 rpm to keep up with traffic in a 3600-4000 stall but it would be more with 2.73's even through the higher gears require less engine rpms to get the car to move?? If that is too high of a stall what would be a good choice? Like i said dont bash me on the gears rt now i do a lot of hwy driving so id like to keep revs down plus i think my tranny is taking a **** so this would be a good time to do the stall...
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Originally Posted by redbird555
Sorry guys completely forgot about this thread after the holidays etc. After reading through everyones replies it seems I will def need a tune that fine as there are multiple good tuners here in south fl. So lets say I did keep the stock gears for now, could a 3600-4000 with a high str such as a yank stall be driven with them or totally not probable? From the vids ive seen and comments read it takes about 2000-2500 rpm to keep up with traffic in a 3600-4000 stall but it would be more with 2.73's even through the higher gears require less engine rpms to get the car to move?? If that is too high of a stall what would be a good choice? Like i said dont bash me on the gears rt now i do a lot of hwy driving so id like to keep revs down plus i think my tranny is taking a **** so this would be a good time to do the stall...
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First, if your tranny is honestly about to take a ****, this is the worst time to do a stall unless you plan on rebuilding/strengthening it.

You will be fine with those gears and a converter. Will you greatly benefit from the "feel" of taking off and what not with a set of 373s? Definitely, but it isn't going to be night and day difference. It will just give it a tighter feel. Performance wise (anybody can argue with me all you want, I won't believe otherwise seen this WAY too many times) you won't see a difference with 373s.. Sure it will give you an amazing SOTP feeling, ET wise you won't notice much of a change if a change at all.
And for anyone wanting to argue that. Unless you have DA calculations on the EXACT passes that you made with NO other changes... Don't even bring it up, your argument is void.
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Thanks Lemons the reason I'd like to do a stall is BECAUSE the tranny will be out for a rebuild lol. But from what your saying the 2.73-3.73 wont make much of a difference in the way the car drives before lockup? From vids i have watched 3600 yanks usually can get moving decently from about 2k-2300 I'm just hoping if I throw one in and tune it I wont be spinning 3k to get the car moving if you catch what Im saying.
Thanks Dan-
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Originally Posted by redbird555
Thanks Lemons the reason I'd like to do a stall is BECAUSE the tranny will be out for a rebuild lol. But from what your saying the 2.73-3.73 wont make much of a difference in the way the car drives before lockup? From vids i have watched 3600 yanks usually can get moving decently from about 2k-2300 I'm just hoping if I throw one in and tune it I wont be spinning 3k to get the car moving if you catch what Im saying.
Thanks Dan-
It won't be quite that high.. Yanks are always pretty close to the advertise speed. With a higher STR you will still have to probably pick up around 2300-2400 RPM (guessing) before the gears.

If I missed it, sorry.. Have you thought about a set of 3.42s? Hell, I have a set of 3.23s lying around I'll sell you for next to nothing, just pay shipping. They are perfect shape.. It will be better than the 2.73s, but nothing that I would worry about myself.
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ya that makes me feel way better about my 3.23s. i have a ss4k on the way and was dreading swapping gears. converters and tunes are exspensive. wasnt in the mood to gear swap right away
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Ya I had thought about gears but the thing is im in college and its about 200 miles to my house each way so the 2.73's are nice for the hwy plus with the cost of the tranny and stall I dont have the cash for the gears atm lol. 2300-2400 more or less isnt too bad i just didnt wanna be spinng 3k just to leave a stop light....
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Originally Posted by 01ssreda4
can you run a stall untuned? Yes
can you run a cam untuned? yes

Should you do either of those? No

Just bc you can doesnt mean you should.

Can he get by with a cam or 4k stall until he has tune money? Yes he can
What about a big cam,4000stall and a 3.73 gear with no intake or exhaust mods and untuned? NOW thats fun!!
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Originally Posted by quadd2244
What about a big cam,4000stall and a 3.73 gear with no intake or exhaust mods and untuned? NOW thats fun!!
1998 trans am ws6 A4 still slow and heavy!!!!!



^^^^Is what you will get! It'll sound mean as ****, but be slow as **** at the same time!
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hey just curious do any of you know where i can find a yank sy3500 from what ive heard its just about the perfect converter for high geared cars a 1.6 str which means a smooth low rpms launch but the high stall kicks ***.
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Originally Posted by redbird555
hey just curious do any of you know where i can find a yank sy3500 from what ive heard its just about the perfect converter for high geared cars a 1.6 str which means a smooth low rpms launch but the high stall kicks ***.
Call Yank................


Just search the classifieds until one pops up man.
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Thanks for all the help guys I feel bad to keep posting questions as so many of you have gave your opinions but I wanna do this once and do it right if you all can understand that. With sponsors offering specials on stalls right now its also driving me to get one here soon. Im not having much like finding a stall and im not entirely sure I want to chance a used one. So I think Ive got it narrowed down to either a ss3200 or ss3600 the 3200 has a 2.1 str and 3600 has a 2.5 str. The 3200 should feel tighter around town which i like with the gears i have but I've heard that a 3600 will feel just about the same but the shifts up top will be MUCH better. Is this true will they drive about the same. The 3600 should be better up top and from a roll? Which do you all reccomend the 4000 is definetley too big for me.
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Originally Posted by redbird555
Thanks for all the help guys I feel bad to keep posting questions as so many of you have gave your opinions but I wanna do this once and do it right if you all can understand that. With sponsors offering specials on stalls right now its also driving me to get one here soon. Im not having much like finding a stall and im not entirely sure I want to chance a used one. So I think Ive got it narrowed down to either a ss3200 or ss3600 the 3200 has a 2.1 str and 3600 has a 2.5 str. The 3200 should feel tighter around town which i like with the gears i have but I've heard that a 3600 will feel just about the same but the shifts up top will be MUCH better. Is this true will they drive about the same. The 3600 should be better up top and from a roll? Which do you all reccomend the 4000 is definetley too big for me.
First, if a 4000 is too big a 3600 will be too big along with a 3200... The difference are minimal to none when driving around town man.

With that said, that is no comparison. 3600 wins, no question about it.
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Sorry not best quality.. PTC 4000 2.4STR

WOT kick.. Sorry I didn't get one after the shift.
http://s250.photobucket.com/albums/g...0202001914.flv
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I don't pick up at that high of a MPH, I was showing how it drives under lock up (45mph)
http://s250.photobucket.com/albums/g...202001711a.flv
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Showing how it picks up at different MPH
http://s250.photobucket.com/albums/g...0202001711.flv


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