? About Tranny Temps!
02-01-2010, 03:26 PM
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The overall design of the 700R4 and the 4L60E are near identical, and they react similarly to a given type of fluid. Maybe the new synthetics are better. Most on here are aware of the fluids history in our transmissions and are not willing to chance an expensive mistake. I am not willing to chance my 4L60E on a synthetic transmission fluid, especially when several converter manufacturers and well respected transmission builders recommend against it's usage. But hey, you have data...
02-01-2010, 06:59 PM
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Back in the mid 90s, 700R4s were crapping out left and right from people putting Trick Shift in their vehicles. Since those days, synthetic transmission fluid has has a well deserved stigma attached to it, regardless of what you read on BITOG.
The overall design of the 700R4 and the 4L60E are near identical, and they react similarly to a given type of fluid. Maybe the new synthetics are better. Most on here are aware of the fluids history in our transmissions and are not willing to chance an expensive mistake. I am not willing to chance my 4L60E on a synthetic transmission fluid, especially when several converter manufacturers and well respected transmission builders recommend against it's usage. But hey, you have data...
The overall design of the 700R4 and the 4L60E are near identical, and they react similarly to a given type of fluid. Maybe the new synthetics are better. Most on here are aware of the fluids history in our transmissions and are not willing to chance an expensive mistake. I am not willing to chance my 4L60E on a synthetic transmission fluid, especially when several converter manufacturers and well respected transmission builders recommend against it's usage. But hey, you have data...
Many more builders, CARL ROSSLER being one of them have nothing against running a synthetic. Not all of my DATA is from bitog so you might want to think about your assumptions next time. Amsoil had THE FIRST synthetic atf. There have been several reformulations throughout the years and never any issues. And as far as YANK i have spoken to him and his reasons for not using synthetic is laughable. Again if you guys want to keep living in 1985 (ie denial) then go right on ahead. You have zero data... Just old wives tales and a crappy example of trick shift! Who in the hell even buys a product like trick shift?? Oh yeah, someone that doesn't know **** about lubricants in general. There are alot of you here. Good luck providing evidence and keep spewing false information about subjects you know nothing about. Ignorance is bliss.
02-01-2010, 07:03 PM
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looks like the one i was thinking about..might actually be the same one
http://www.ws6project.com/user_stor/...oducts_id=2317
Looks to big to mount on the front of the radiator??
http://www.ws6project.com/user_stor/...oducts_id=2317
Looks to big to mount on the front of the radiator??
02-01-2010, 07:08 PM
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Absolutely not, thats where I have mine. Its a super tight fit but you can get it in there. I actually made a small aluminum bracket that holds it out away from the condenser a tad for a little bit more room. The bracket is bent around and attached to the lower radiator support.
hopefully between that and a deeper pan i can get my tranny temps down under 200
02-03-2010, 05:22 PM
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alright guys i installed B&M badest bitch today....and its still reaching 250 degrees according to the temp gauge. im starting to think the gauge isnt accurate...
02-07-2010, 09:24 PM
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Well i dont know if it was the deeper pan of the relocation of the sending unit, but the tranny is staying right about 200 degrees now. Which to me is still to hot for as cold as it is. Gonna put the SLP fan switch in and hope thats enough for the summer time.
02-08-2010, 07:15 AM
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My tranny stays ice cold around 160 normal florida driving with the tranny cooler you have... Have you tried another sending unit/gauge just to make sure they're good?
I'll offer my .02 to the synthetic debate, synthetic imo is the best tranny fluid you can get. It will be in my tranny next oil change providing I dont have a stall for it would void the warranty. To the post up top abt trickshift, I have a bottle of it at home and its a conventional oil, while they do have a synthetic that comes in a silver bottle Ive only seen it for sale on their website. I've seen synthetic atf not once but twice on a 4l30e and a ford AODE completely get rid of slipping clutches when no other atf could. Mind you these trannys were on their way out and even with brand new castrol conventional atf still slipped on shifts normal driving etc, when a full flush and synthetic change was done both tranny shifted flawlessly until the next oil change where conventional was used again and the same thing happened. Normally I wouldnt justify a $110 oil change if I didnt see it work before my own eyes....
I'll offer my .02 to the synthetic debate, synthetic imo is the best tranny fluid you can get. It will be in my tranny next oil change providing I dont have a stall for it would void the warranty. To the post up top abt trickshift, I have a bottle of it at home and its a conventional oil, while they do have a synthetic that comes in a silver bottle Ive only seen it for sale on their website. I've seen synthetic atf not once but twice on a 4l30e and a ford AODE completely get rid of slipping clutches when no other atf could. Mind you these trannys were on their way out and even with brand new castrol conventional atf still slipped on shifts normal driving etc, when a full flush and synthetic change was done both tranny shifted flawlessly until the next oil change where conventional was used again and the same thing happened. Normally I wouldnt justify a $110 oil change if I didnt see it work before my own eyes....
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02-08-2010, 07:44 AM
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My tranny stays ice cold around 160 normal florida driving with the tranny cooler you have... Have you tried another sending unit/gauge just to make sure they're good?
I'll offer my .02 to the synthetic debate, synthetic imo is the best tranny fluid you can get. It will be in my tranny next oil change providing I dont have a stall for it would void the warranty. To the post up top abt trickshift, I have a bottle of it at home and its a conventional oil, while they do have a synthetic that comes in a silver bottle Ive only seen it for sale on their website. I've seen synthetic atf not once but twice on a 4l30e and a ford AODE completely get rid of slipping clutches when no other atf could. Mind you these trannys were on their way out and even with brand new castrol conventional atf still slipped on shifts normal driving etc, when a full flush and synthetic change was done both tranny shifted flawlessly until the next oil change where conventional was used again and the same thing happened. Normally I wouldnt justify a $110 oil change if I didnt see it work before my own eyes....
I'll offer my .02 to the synthetic debate, synthetic imo is the best tranny fluid you can get. It will be in my tranny next oil change providing I dont have a stall for it would void the warranty. To the post up top abt trickshift, I have a bottle of it at home and its a conventional oil, while they do have a synthetic that comes in a silver bottle Ive only seen it for sale on their website. I've seen synthetic atf not once but twice on a 4l30e and a ford AODE completely get rid of slipping clutches when no other atf could. Mind you these trannys were on their way out and even with brand new castrol conventional atf still slipped on shifts normal driving etc, when a full flush and synthetic change was done both tranny shifted flawlessly until the next oil change where conventional was used again and the same thing happened. Normally I wouldnt justify a $110 oil change if I didnt see it work before my own eyes....
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02-08-2010, 07:59 AM
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I have ran with and without radiator cooler. IMO, the radiator brings the temp of the tranny up. Bypassing it will drop tranny temps another 10-30 degrees.
02-08-2010, 08:11 AM
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Ironically we are discussing this in another trans thread. About the radiator acting as a heater when the temps are coolant>trans. But when the trans>coolant, it acts as a cooler. How hot is your coolant running? The two liquids are trying to equalize themselves in temps.
02-08-2010, 08:17 AM
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right thats my thing is, my car had the stock thermostat in it so it runs 200 degrees! So it has to be heating it up. I got B&M badest one they got. almost 30,000 BTU
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/BMM-70274/
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/BMM-70274/