Fuddle Converters what was wrong with them??
05-17-2010, 09:16 AM
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Fuddle Converters what was wrong with them?? Ok I’ve done something that I never do …
I would say I always do research before I buy…. but that didn’t happen this time. I thought I was getting a deal on a part but now from all the research I have done all I hear is people talking about how bad the Customer service is for the company.
But as for the Fuddle converters ….Is there anything wrong with them mechanically??
I have a 3800 stall from them still in a box.
I would say I always do research before I buy…. but that didn’t happen this time. I thought I was getting a deal on a part but now from all the research I have done all I hear is people talking about how bad the Customer service is for the company.
But as for the Fuddle converters ….Is there anything wrong with them mechanically??
I have a 3800 stall from them still in a box.
05-17-2010, 09:25 AM
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Almost everyone I heard of that had one said they were great. Its when you needed a repair or restall or warranty you would send your converter to him and never get it back. That kind of stuff.
05-17-2010, 09:36 AM
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I believe you can send the converter in to another converter company and they can fix it if it ever breaks. I think Fuddle is out of business now so that might be your only option.
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05-17-2010, 10:03 PM
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Something more in the 4k+ range, Im only able to get 3500 on the transbrake right now. I did alot of research before I threw it in there. I got it in a trade for my 6 speed set up so wasnt really out any money or anything
05-17-2010, 10:13 PM
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I got a used one from cablebandit on here, he ran it in his turbo ta for a while with his old setup and said it worked flawlessly. I'm about thru with my 4L80 swap and can report back with my experiences after it's done. From what he said, fuddle spec'd their stuff but had their converters built and restalled at another shop near them somewhere on the west coast - so they may not have been necessarily to blame for previous poor customer service etc. Fuddle is no longer in business.
05-17-2010, 10:21 PM
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I got a used one from cablebandit on here, he ran it in his turbo ta for a while with his old setup and said it worked flawlessly. I'm about thru with my 4L80 swap and can report back with my experiences after it's done. From what he said, fuddle spec'd their stuff but had their converters built and restalled at another shop near them somewhere on the west coast - so they may not have been necessarily to blame for previous poor customer service etc. Fuddle is no longer in business.
But I don't think I will need to call him the Stall in new in a box.
I just have to worry about repair work if I break some thing.
I just wanted to make sure there was no big problems with the fuddle stalls.
05-18-2010, 01:28 PM
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Mine is JUNK.
I get wicked converter shutter when its locked up in overdrive with anything greater then 10% throttle with a load on it. Its a 3800 stall and its also extremely loose.
I am getting rid of mine here in the next month and going with an FTI
I get wicked converter shutter when its locked up in overdrive with anything greater then 10% throttle with a load on it. Its a 3800 stall and its also extremely loose.
I am getting rid of mine here in the next month and going with an FTI
05-18-2010, 03:41 PM
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I'm sure there are plenty of old threads about the quality of Fuddle converters. I remember reading a bunch of threads about how they were causing premature tranny failures, and when they contacted fuddle about the issue they got turned away. There is a reason the company went out of business. I would never use a Fuddle. Yank or Precision Industries are the only way I would go. I run a Yank SS 3600 and couldn't be happier.
05-18-2010, 06:01 PM
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**** Fuddle !!!!!!!!!! Theyre the biggest pieces of **** ive ever ran or seen !!!!!!
**** poor customer service
Extremely poorly built converters
Extremely inefficient
poorest quality bearings used
Overheats 4L60Es due to too much slippage/inefficiency
I went through 3 60Es because of the **** quality Fuddle Converters prematurely
failing and sending metal through the trans.
The son of a bitch "John" ******* lied to me saying he sent me a converter
with a bogus tracking number when I first ordered it from him . It took 3 MONTHS
to receive a damn converter and received nothing but lies and bogus tracking
numbers in the mean time . It also took that ******* two months to respond to me
and the only reason he responded to my MANY MANY voicemails , PMs , emails , etc.
is because i threatened him with a lawsuit and filed a claim against him with Paypal !!!
Need me to keep going !?!?!?
**** poor customer service
Extremely poorly built converters
Extremely inefficient
poorest quality bearings used
Overheats 4L60Es due to too much slippage/inefficiency
I went through 3 60Es because of the **** quality Fuddle Converters prematurely
failing and sending metal through the trans.
The son of a bitch "John" ******* lied to me saying he sent me a converter
with a bogus tracking number when I first ordered it from him . It took 3 MONTHS
to receive a damn converter and received nothing but lies and bogus tracking
numbers in the mean time . It also took that ******* two months to respond to me
and the only reason he responded to my MANY MANY voicemails , PMs , emails , etc.
is because i threatened him with a lawsuit and filed a claim against him with Paypal !!!
Need me to keep going !?!?!?
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Part of it was, they were not able to live up to their
customer service and warranty promises when things
went bad.
Another part of it is, they let people spec their own
converter. Somebody who didn't know or care to tell
them they wanted high efficiency, might get a build
where that element was left to fall where it might,
to get the explicit attributes. Like if you ask for a
3000RPM stall and a 2.7 STR, OK, but guess what?
Efficiency will suck.
Me, I told them 3500RPM, highest possible efficiency
and STR can be low, just not as low as stock. I got
a 2.0 STR and log 95% eff at 6000RPM, by the slip #s.
They also made a cheap, and two beefier models. I
went for beefy and still hanging tough. Seems to me
like the cheap version had more problems reported
here, but also more fielded units so who can say for
sure?
They originally had the converters built by "The Converter
Company" which was a side shop for some old-timey
Salt Lake City transmission business. My converter
arrived with oily rags as packing material. Nice. But not
particularly relevant, since it's lasted to this point.
It wasn't all that big a surprise that coming in with the
lowest price for a full custom build and a good (on paper)
warranty, would be a failure strategy for a shoestring
business. Even if mechanical quality was consistently a
non-problem (this is where your user experience varies,
along with downstream support).
If it was an HP/Street version I'd go ahead and put it
in - presuming you think you like the specs. But this is
the nut of it, from the performance / efficiency angle -
do you, and did the unhappy-in-this-respect customers,
really know what they wanted?
customer service and warranty promises when things
went bad.
Another part of it is, they let people spec their own
converter. Somebody who didn't know or care to tell
them they wanted high efficiency, might get a build
where that element was left to fall where it might,
to get the explicit attributes. Like if you ask for a
3000RPM stall and a 2.7 STR, OK, but guess what?
Efficiency will suck.
Me, I told them 3500RPM, highest possible efficiency
and STR can be low, just not as low as stock. I got
a 2.0 STR and log 95% eff at 6000RPM, by the slip #s.
They also made a cheap, and two beefier models. I
went for beefy and still hanging tough. Seems to me
like the cheap version had more problems reported
here, but also more fielded units so who can say for
sure?
They originally had the converters built by "The Converter
Company" which was a side shop for some old-timey
Salt Lake City transmission business. My converter
arrived with oily rags as packing material. Nice. But not
particularly relevant, since it's lasted to this point.
It wasn't all that big a surprise that coming in with the
lowest price for a full custom build and a good (on paper)
warranty, would be a failure strategy for a shoestring
business. Even if mechanical quality was consistently a
non-problem (this is where your user experience varies,
along with downstream support).
If it was an HP/Street version I'd go ahead and put it
in - presuming you think you like the specs. But this is
the nut of it, from the performance / efficiency angle -
do you, and did the unhappy-in-this-respect customers,
really know what they wanted?