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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 12:03 PM
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I have a question for anyone with an opinion. I have the Vig 3600 and currently run a 150(rwhp) nitrous setup. I am also not too impressed with the mph at the track. Best mph was 119.38 and i really want to be over the 120 range,this thing is very loose around town and horrible on the spray. I want to know what some good nitrous (efficient) convertor choices would be.
Soon the car will be a h/c car too. Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 12:20 PM
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Vig 3200 or a Yank PYE3600
Or u could add a LU switch and lock it up at 5800,should pick 2 mph...
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 01:02 PM
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i used to run the vig3600 and it was great on the motor but really sucked on the spray, even locking it up wasnt very good.

If you want the best of both worlds get a pye3600
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 01:33 PM
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I don't like my vig3600 at all!!! I'm going to an SS4000E.

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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 01:36 PM
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Still having some mph troubles huh Dave? Sorry to hear about that. I've never run anything but the stock converter so no help here. Maybe Colonel will chime in here. He has extensive TC and nitrous knowledge.
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 09:46 PM
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Yeah my vig 3600 is loose as hell on the street and my gas mileage sucks *** and its not all that good on the hwy. I'm really considering getting another stall. I also have nitrous but haven't had a chance to run it yet and I would really like a stall that will run NA or NO2. Also not so loose on the street.
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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 06:57 AM
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Guys I would check out having your converter upgraded to the multidisc setup. I used to have a single disc setup and this is a big difference. I have a 4000 multidisc and it feels pretty damn good aroud town. IT drives very simular to my old vig 3200 converter.
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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 10:54 AM
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define loose? whats the min rpm your car rolls at? 2500?
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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 11:14 AM
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samz28-The car rolls as soon as you let off the brake if the road if smooth and flat,but it will not really start moving unless the r's get around 3000 or better. I know that a high stall convertor is exactly that (BUT) i want one alittle more efficient . If it is going to rev and feel loose i want to get good mph at the track for all my rpm,ya know. I am nervous about the head and cam set up and how it will effect this convertor with more power and torque.

The pye3600 sounds like a good choice to me-lots of people have recommended it to me so far.

Dan , My mph is slowly getting better. I just think alot of it was my nitrous setup needed tuning . Now i am sure the spray is doing what it should and now i want to get a convertor that will work with H/C setup and still be good with the bottle.(Ya know -just in cause i run into a 600 RWHP Project Cobra. J/K) I want to be able to keep up.

Thanks for all your input(s). Dave
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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 02:20 PM
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just curious because the mechanic who did my tci ssf 3500 said about the same cept its more around 2500rpm, just wanted to get a comparative feel. I spose you are right mpg may suck some more. Do you find any difference in D or OD in street driving?
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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 02:28 PM
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My gas mileage is also like stock due to being a lock up convertor. drives just like normal after around 40 mph.
I don't know about driving in D , I always stick it in OD and let the pcm handle the rest.(Sorry-can't help ya there)

I want a convertor with a higher STR than my current Vig 3600. Something higher and alittle more efficient would be great.(Might be asking for too much).

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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 03:05 PM
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sounds like the 21 wheel stator yank if ya got the dough $$ Alas i chose what i chose for the bang for buck (budget fast auto lol). I think those yanks are nearly double a tci. I'll let you know how this 3500 (they do make 3800/etc) works out when i pick it up tonight. I'm going from stock (lid/catback) to all the mods in my sig, and am gonna do a thorough review of driveability with this tci. something that i think alot of people haven't really mentioned. I guess "looseness" is all subjective to each driver, but i do 99% city driving so i'll have alot to say good or bad after a few days

where does your vig3600 flash stall too?
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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 05:05 PM
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redsscamaroboy... I run simalar times are you and The Guy in MY 99TA. I also haven't got my car dailed in yet as far as the tranny and my tire pressure. On my 555s(not DR's) in the I ran an 8.08 @84.11 w/1.76 60'(1500 rpms) on my ETs I've only been able to run a 8.17@85 w/1.81 60' 12.70@106(1500 rpms). You would think I should be able to cut a better 60' on my ETs but I just spin the crap out of them of the line with them at 15psi. What RPMs are you guys launching at and what PSI are you running. I sure things will pick up a little when the headers and ORYP go on and some tunning.
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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 05:07 PM
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Guys I would check out having your converter upgraded to the multidisc setup. I used to have a single disc setup and this is a big difference. I have a 4000 multidisc and it feels pretty damn good aroud town. IT drives very simular to my old vig 3200 converter.

How high does it actully stall at and whats the str? What about using it with nitrous?
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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 08:40 PM
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BUT how much are you gunna spend on getting the multidisc upgrade? IMO a vig is not an option the next time I pull it out.

Josh S.
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Old Jan 17, 2004 | 01:07 PM
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A Vig 3600 is a terrible choice for running nitrous.

My pick for a 100-150 shot with heads/cam would be the SS4000. Up to 200 and I'd go SS4000E. Up to 300 I'd go PY3600E. Above that I'd go PY3400E. Now I'm speaking for the majority of heads/cam packages (shifting below 7000 NA.) Make it one that shifts at 7500 on motor and the choices would obviously change.

But, if you can get the thing converted to a tight multidisk for a cheap price (I have no idea what they charge), you might go that route.
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Old Jan 20, 2004 | 01:47 PM
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Thanks for your responses(sorry It's been busy around here lately).
Well,the motor flashes to around 4000 rpm n/a and around 5000 on the bottle(probably higher on spray,but just cant take the time to watch).

I run my E/T streets at 22psi and launch on the bottle-footbraking to 2500 or so(have tried to go from 1000 rpm but 2500 seems to work best) and i 60ft in the 1.5's.

Colonel - The vertor you mentioned SS4000,stupid question,but is that a Yank vertor? Who makes it?
Patriot stage II head/cam package with a upgrade to the LS6 intake and tuning is my (current) plan. Along with injectors and more fuel pump.
I dont want a drag/race car,i just want a really fun (fast) street car that can be driven around town. This current setup is the way its been for about 1 year and i drive it when ever to where ever i want to-even daily to work if the weather is good. I really don't want to lose that. I can put up with a lot of convertor(to a point) and some "lump" at idle" . But would like a good all round package.
Thanks again ,Dave
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Old Jan 20, 2004 | 02:30 PM
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All of the converters I mentioned are Yanks.
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Old Jan 20, 2004 | 02:36 PM
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Thank You.
I will call them and find out some more info. The SS4000 did not show up on there site. The SS4000E did ,i will find out more once i call.
This should be a great year,especially with all the help on this board.

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Old Jan 20, 2004 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by redsscamaroboy
Well,the motor flashes to around 4000 rpm n/a and around 5000 on the bottle(probably higher on spray,but just cant take the time to watch).

I run my E/T streets at 22psi and launch on the bottle-footbraking to 2500 or so(have tried to go from 1000 rpm but 2500 seems to work best) and i 60ft in the 1.5's.
Damn... you launch with the spray on ETs do you still have the stock 10 bolt? How long do you do a burn out?
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