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Old 01-13-2011, 11:29 AM
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I recently had a 1995 4l60 rebuilt w/ some upgrades cosisting of a sun shell and a better sprag. I was on the tollway and on the 17th mile of the new trans it exploded, broke the bellhousing, converter, driveshaft, torque arm, crossmember, exhaust, output shaft, front sleave that goes into converter and put a hole in the floor!

This trans went back in with the same driveshaft as it had before, same converter,same everthing and it was fine before the rebuild.

The pump blew out of front of trans and started the carnage, anybody have any idea why this trans came apart?
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end play was too tight most of the time with the beast you will have to change the washer on the back of the drum to a thinner washer to correct endplay which is nominal at about .012. if its too tight when the trans grows from heat it will blow the front pump right out of the case
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Originally Posted by Predator T/A
end play was too tight most of the time with the beast you will have to change the washer on the back of the drum to a thinner washer to correct endplay which is nominal at about .012. if its too tight when the trans grows from heat it will blow the front pump right out of the case
When you say Beast you are refering to the shell?
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yes the "beast" sunshell as i assume that was the sunshell upgrade.
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Wow dude what a ******* nightmare. Sorry to hear
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Did you have a warranty?
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Hope someone is reimbursing you..
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The TC not being properly seated can cause this.
Old 01-13-2011, 10:55 PM
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Glad your alright, hope you can get it sorted out with the rebuilder.
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Holy **** I bet that was a WTF moment.
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Originally Posted by 01ssreda4
Holy **** I bet that was a WTF moment.
Hell yea it was!

The Trans guy said he will replace the trans
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You say a hole in the floor dude? I have to see this!
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had this happen before as well...

when it goes back in, get a decent driveshaft for good measure...stock ones are garbage and nearly always bent/out of balance
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Originally Posted by Anthony Williams
The TC not being properly seated can cause this.
+1 to this its happened to me rushing before.
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When i blew my pump out i just lost all gears nothing else happened didnt break a thing. besides the guts in the pump
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if the converter was installed improperly it probably wouldnt have made it 17 miles.
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Originally Posted by Predator T/A
if the converter was installed improperly it probably wouldnt have made it 17 miles.
Exactly what I was thinking, I was really careful about seating the convertor
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17 miles was just enough for the trans to get good and hot and push the pump out thats what front endplay does when its too tight.




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