TC Advice
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TC Advice OK, I was up last night reading through this forum trying to find a good TC for me, and I think I have it but I would appreciate any advice you guy's can give me.
First about the car, it's a 01 WS-6 with 3.23's, that is daily driven, and doesn't see any track usage. I'm wanting a good upgrade from stock converted but I don't want a lot of looseness or murdered gas milage. So I think I've settled on a VIG3200 with a 2.3 STR.
Now, most of my racing is done from a roll and on occasion from a dig. I want to keep running street tires. Is a 2.3 STR too much for street tires? Even treading lightly on the pedal, will it be too hard to keep it from overpowering the tires? If it matters, I'm also going to upgrade to Spohn LCA's and SFC's and also get a torque arm.
Also, just curious, how well does A4's with a TC like this hang with M6's from a roll?
Thanks!
First about the car, it's a 01 WS-6 with 3.23's, that is daily driven, and doesn't see any track usage. I'm wanting a good upgrade from stock converted but I don't want a lot of looseness or murdered gas milage. So I think I've settled on a VIG3200 with a 2.3 STR.
Now, most of my racing is done from a roll and on occasion from a dig. I want to keep running street tires. Is a 2.3 STR too much for street tires? Even treading lightly on the pedal, will it be too hard to keep it from overpowering the tires? If it matters, I'm also going to upgrade to Spohn LCA's and SFC's and also get a torque arm.
Also, just curious, how well does A4's with a TC like this hang with M6's from a roll?
Thanks!
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Yea your gonna need some drag radials, personally with the 323s I would go TCI SSF 3500 stall,and use the extra money you saved to buy a Pulley or some drag radials. Us A4 guys have a hard time hanging with the M6 guys even with a converter from a roll but , it does help alot , great mod You will be happy.
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I think the Vig3200 (stalls at 3600) is gonna be a bit much on street tires and you'll feel the "looseness". To be honest there is no converter that will suit all your needs. If you want to be "tight" and street tire friendly then you need a 2800-3200 stall with a smaller STR. Maybe vig2800 (stalls at 3200) might better suit those needs. But that converter will not perform the way you want from a roll. It'll be an improvement but your not gonna beat any M6 guys with otherwise equal HP with that converter on a roll.
On the other hand you could get a big 3800-4400 3.5+ STR converter and feel a big improvement from a roll. But now you got mega "looseness" and can't even look at street tires or even Drag Radials for traction.
Then there is the happy medium. You can get a 3200-3600 stall with 2.0-2.5 STR and get a decent gain, just a little "looseness" and the need to upgrade to some Nitto 555R drag radials which can at least last 10,000 miles on the street.
I agree with Boomcase completely. Your best bet is either the TCI 3000 or 3500 & Nitto 555R's. The money you save on the verter should just about cover the Drag Radials.
Whatever verter you get don't forget the tranny cooler and to delete torque management. Good Luck
On the other hand you could get a big 3800-4400 3.5+ STR converter and feel a big improvement from a roll. But now you got mega "looseness" and can't even look at street tires or even Drag Radials for traction.
Then there is the happy medium. You can get a 3200-3600 stall with 2.0-2.5 STR and get a decent gain, just a little "looseness" and the need to upgrade to some Nitto 555R drag radials which can at least last 10,000 miles on the street.
I agree with Boomcase completely. Your best bet is either the TCI 3000 or 3500 & Nitto 555R's. The money you save on the verter should just about cover the Drag Radials.
Whatever verter you get don't forget the tranny cooler and to delete torque management. Good Luck
Might I suggest a midwest 3400 - 3800 with a 2.0 STR. Might suit your needs. I have a 3400 2.5 STR but it is a bit much and street tires are out of the question. Plus the midwest is cheap.
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i like my tci ssf 3500. Nitto 555R's only are safe till about 50% life on rainy situations, fwiw, unless you like spinning out on the freeway when you hit a poodle.
loose is something you'll feel in city, mpg too, once the verter locks up at 40mph in OD, there is no looseness, just as good as stock, but city driving you can definitely feel it getting up to lockup point.
street tires just aren't going to work with a tci ssf 3500. its putting down sick torque #'s that even the 245-50-16 555R DR's i have, at less than 30mph, blow off.
great verter none the less quite fun.
loose is something you'll feel in city, mpg too, once the verter locks up at 40mph in OD, there is no looseness, just as good as stock, but city driving you can definitely feel it getting up to lockup point.
street tires just aren't going to work with a tci ssf 3500. its putting down sick torque #'s that even the 245-50-16 555R DR's i have, at less than 30mph, blow off.
great verter none the less quite fun.
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Originally Posted by Billfold
how would it handle in snow? (now thats probably a stupid question) I drive my car through any type of weather, and I wouldn't be able to spring for tires after the verter right away.
I'll eventually get myself some bigger rims and ET streets for my track trips but for a few years I think I'll do the new Nitto's every May and Winter tires every October routine.
I recently got a TCI 3800 and am worried it will be too loose as well. I do plan on getting the transgo shift kit and tranny cooler along with some lca's. I am going to be running on street tires for awhile until i can get some 555r's.
Originally Posted by samz28
i like my tci ssf 3500. Nitto 555R's only are safe till about 50% life on rainy situations, fwiw, unless you like spinning out on the freeway when you hit a poodle.
I am gonna have to call the SPCA on you.
HAHAHA just joking I read that and I was like huh.
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dont worry m6 folks have the same problem with worn nitto's and standing water.
quite dangerous. Ever wonder why nobody road hazards drag radials? nails would magically appear in the sidewalls at 50% and i'd pay the pro-rate for new tires.
lol.
quite dangerous. Ever wonder why nobody road hazards drag radials? nails would magically appear in the sidewalls at 50% and i'd pay the pro-rate for new tires.
lol.
