BoxeDK

"back in the day..." When ?

Lou had some employees "back in the day" who fried Lou AND his customers exactly how you describe it. With used, stock parts... Meanwhile theese employees started their own transmission company and took all Lous customers..

In short, they builded bad transmissions at Lous shop, and builded the "good" ones at their own.. Dirty trick...

This knowledge is on the internet too.. You just have to do a googlesearch, buddy

Fbodyjunkie06

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I hope that is the case because as everyone else has said he sounds like a good guy and we as racers feel for him, but the only thing that will tell the true tale this time is that he is finally putting his name with his product, showing where his shop is, and doing what he is doing now. If it continues to be a positive experience with Charlie@Vengence and the rest of his customers only time will tell.

Good luck Lou I hope you're telling the truth.

za355tx

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Says Mr. 8 posts..........I know enough about this guy to know I'd never let him touch a tranny of mine, and that's all I need to know. Have you had personal experience with him? I have and you can say what you want about his employees but it was still his business...don't you think that after the first wave of pissed off customers came back he would have done personal quality checks? You'd think so but that wasn't the case and if it was he sure did a crappy job of it.

BoxeDK

I understand your point of view as a customer. But as a chief of staff of my own, I can easely put my self in Lous situation. You really have to trust you employees. And if they did a bad job over some time, I would surely do a checkup on it.
In Lous situation his employee (manager at the time) told Lou that there was no complains and everything was find. Lou of cause trusted him. That was the mistake!
As far as I can see now, Lou is trying to make up for it. To build up a ruined reputation, caused by someone he trusted.

I can't find a single bad review on him there happened the last couple of years, that he at least did not fixed right away.


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BoxeDK

oh and to answer your question. No I have no experience with Lou. But I am about buying a 4L60 level2 from him now. But I think a month will past or so, before it will arrive here in Denmark. The danish customs usually keep the things a couple of weeks before they let it pass. pain in the butt.


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za355tx

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I understand your point it's just hard when you had such a bad experience with someone who sold you a $1600 trans and then you find out it was all stock inside. I hope for your sake that he's checking them himself or building them himself...of course I don't know why anyone would not go with a performabuilt trans as they're about the only company that really has not had issues. It would be worth a little extra money in my opinion...I would run one if I had the money. Good luck and I really didn't mean any disrespect but I'm sure it came out that way. So I'm sorry about that. Again man good luck and I really hope he does the trans right for you.

BoxeDK

None disrespect taken ;-)
I really hope the trans is good too. Both for my own sake, but for Lous too.
I am taken the truck on a big roadtrip through Europe in about 2 month time. I will surely make a review on this website how it whent with the new tranny. Or if I had to tow the car back home :-)


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68 SS

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700 behind a 632? You need to toss that idea and call Jake and order a 4L80 IMO

SnIpEz

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EVERY transmission company has had issues, and I mean EVERY single one of them. You cannot please everybody, no matter what options you give them sometimes.

THIS

Ch3v3lle

Fact: Better Business Bureau:

Customer Complaints Summary
1 complaint closed with BBB in last 3 years | 0 closed in last 12 months
Complaint Type Total Closed Complaints
Guarantee / Warranty Issues 1
Advertising / Sales Issues 0
Billing / Collection Issues 0
Problems with Product / Service 0
Delivery Issues 0
Total Closed Complaints 1

Only one complaint in 3 years and it was resolved. Mad Dog explained that he had some bad employees a while back and has worked to make things right. He said that there were mistakes made and he has regrouped and fixed his business.
Give the guy a break, and let him prove himself again, I will give him a try with a stage 3 700 R4, I have read several RECENT posts that say they got a good deal and the trans is going strong. I think he might deserve a second shot.

01ssreda4

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Nobody uses BBB anymore.

tt383lt1

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thats why when i got my th400 off line. i had my local trusted tranny shop make sure the parts were in there right when i got it.

tt383lt1

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this or a th400, glide

LS1121

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Sure they do, I have one open right now. That's the 1st thing you should do when you have an issue. The 2nd thing you do is to get an Attorney.

01ssreda4

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FormerVendor............

Lou care to discuss?

Vince B

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Thats IB's way of saying its time to pay your bill. Happens all the time and he will be back unless Lou decides to drop his sponsorship here.

shaq_2500

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Well I got burned to on a transmission from maddogg. I bought the tranny in 08 and had to postpone my build, and just now getting it ready. Was getting my car tuned and sprayed it and 3rd and 4th went out. Even though the tranny was bought a few years back it had a total of 150 miles on it. I bought a level 3 tranny that was suppose to be good for 700hp my car only made 400n/a and with a 150 shot it was way under the horsepower

LSBoost

On (2- -14) I purchased a 4L60E on Ebay from a company called Maddog Transmissions. I paid instantly through PayPal and the transmission arrived at my shop approximately 10 days later. MDT claimed on the site that all transmissions were tested and put on a dyno before leaving their shop. When the transmission was pulled off the carrier (R&L Carriers) we immediately noticed the sound of something rolling around in the transmission. Before taking the Trans off the pallet I placed a call to MDT and was transferred to Elliot. Elliot told me there was no way that could happen unless it was the carriers mishandling of the unit, he said all units are tested before they leave the shop. I told him I was not going to install this unit with the sound of parts moving around in the pan. Elliot pleaded with me to remove the pan and assured me this would not void the warranty. I proceeded to remove the pan and I found two bolts that were never screwed in place. When I removed the pan I found something else that bothered me, a dry transmission. All parts appeared to be replaced and new seals, gaskets and everything was clean, but how do you dyno a transmission and keep it dry? I sent pictures to Elliot and Lou of the bolts and dry Trans and Lou confirmed the Transmission was never tested due to a problem with the dyno. I was asked to install the bolts, pan and the Trans and test it. I was hesitant to install the 60 given this is a labor intensive job, but none the less I thought everyone deserves a shot. I installed the Trans the very next day and filled the fluids and started the engine. After letting the fluid warm to temp and capping off the fluids I ran the selector through the gears to find I had no first and no drive. I pulled out the scanner and found some codes and called MDT. Lou told me given the code info he felt it was the wiring harness in the Trans had a short and could send me one at no cost if I could install it. At this time I’m very frustrated, but keep my composure and refused to work on a guaranteed/ warrantied item. Call MDT again and they said I needed to arrange shipment back to their shop @ Cummings Ga. After about a week R & L carriers arrived at my shop to pick up the transmission. I called MDT and talked with the owner Lou about the issues and wanted to make sure I got a quality Trans and did not want to go through this again. I told Lou I would pay extra for their top 4L60E if he would assure me it would not have any issues. I ended up upgrading on the phone and sending more cash through PayPal. Several days later I received their Level 4 4L60E that was rated at 800 hp. Installed the trans and it seemed to shift good and felt fine for about 15 hard runs then it started over shifting. The tune was set to shift at 5800 RPM in all gears and was hitting as high as 7200RPM on some runs do to slippage. I called MDT and was transferred to Elliot. Elliot told me I need to check out all the wiring that I may have a problem on my end. I assured him I didn’t have an issue on my end and the Transmission wasn’t doing this on every run. Elliot wanted me to change the Trans filter and fluid so I reluctantly did with no change. After another week of revving to the moon during shifts I decided to call again, Elliot wanted me to check to make sure my Trans cooler was not stopped up, so I did this and flow was fine. I then emailed my concerns to MDT wanting an acknowledgment and a written copy saying they would fix this issue. After about a week I finally got it in writing, they said they had been moving to a new shop in Cummings GA and this was the reason for no email replies. I then pulled the Trans and contacted R& L carriers to put another $166 bucks in their pockets to take the Trans back to MDT. I waited several days to get the repaired Trans back form MDT with Elliot’s word that it would be tested and ready to roll. I received the Trans on a Thursday and installed it that night (getting rather good at the install at this point). The truck was still sitting on the stand where I removed the other over shifting 60, no changes to anything. After warming the motor and Trans with fluids capped off I proceed to go through the gears, guess what?? I have no first gear and no drive, transmission number three is just like transmission number one. I rechecked everything, no codes this time, just missing these gears. Friday morning I called MDT and was transferred to Elliot again. Elliot got really loud and stated that I have an electrical issue and need to take my truck somewhere and get it checked out. I proceeded to tell him I’m not some young kid that you need to yell at, I’m 48 and have been building hotrods for 25+ years. He continued to tell me that the trans was tested so if there is a problem it’s mine and he’s pretty much done with me. I continued to try to talk sensible to him as he yelled. I asked him if I could ship this back and just have him send me a TH400, provided it would shift correctly I would no longer contact MDT. He said if I would put it in writing he would agree to that. I later received an email from their secretary stating I have had three transmissions with the same problem and all three were tested by MDT and wanted me to agree to that. I told them I would not agree to that as it was untrue and I have every email exchange that’s ever transpired between us and can prove all that I say. The following day Lou sent an email stating the transmission was not tested this time as well (he was truthful concerning the testing of his transmissions). After we worked out the exchange we shipped the Trans back to Cummings Ga through R&L carriers (Driver knows me by name as well as MDT if you know what I mean). The day I took the Trans out and put it in the bed of my personal vehicle it was raining, I had no way to cover the Trans and knew water would get in the Trans but had no choice. When the transmission arrived at MDT Elliot called me yelling at the top of his lungs stating he knew what had happened the transmission, that I had ruined it because my radiator was leaking into it. I assured him the fluid that came from Trans was perfect and the converter fluid was perfect and had only been driven a mile or less. This conversation went on for a while trying to place blame on me. After a few hours I received another irate call from Elliot telling me his builder said there was no way the water could have gotten in some of the areas by being in a rain storm. I assured him I drove 9 miles in some of the hardest rain I’ve been in for a while and I did not have any coolant leaks. I told them to test for ethylene glycol and he found any I’d eat the complete expense; his comeback was I was probably running straight water. I assured him this is my personal vehicle and I drive it everywhere and am very picky and do not run plane water ever. We agreed to proceed with the deal. After a week of calling I can only reach the secretary. Asked for Lou…..(not here) Asked for Elliot……..(not here) As for Dale…….(not here) and a few days later I finally reach Elliot. He assures me my new TH400 transmission is being built to replace the 60 and it will be sent out soon. I received an email from Jenifer saying the Trans will be sent out the following day finally on June 30th and then on another day 9 days later saying it will ship out. It’s 7/10/14 and I still don’t have a th400 to replace the 60. I’ve had 4 transmissions from MDT and only one has worked and that was for very few runs. I have been dealing with MDT and shipping transmissions for almost the complete year of 2014. I finally received the TH400 that Elliot was bragging about, the first lie was the converter was another stock 12” (every converter I ever got from them was stock dia and stock stall) Elliot had promised me a 10” ABP converter. I took the trans to a local shop to see if the parts fit the description of Lou’s add and guess what, it was a worn out piece of junk painted up to look real nice. If I had ran the Trans it would have broken just like the other 4. Anyone who continues to sell junk to a customer, who has been through this kind of trauma, does not classify as stand up guy. If Lou needs money this bad maybe he should get a real job. I know Lou will have his side of the story as I see his post on every forum, but I just wanted all my fellow builders and racers to know beyond a shadow of a doubt that you don’t purchase a Trans from this company. He has been reported to the BBB and has moved from state to state under different company names and still his reputation follows him. Thousands of dollars and many hrs wrenching on my truck and I should have a good Trans soon. It will have a Mad Dog case, but that’s about all.