Joes98Blackbird

I Wanted to know what kind of stall is good for a DDriver. I have a 3000 BS Dayco in it now and i wanted to know whats the best stall out there for a guy on a budget? I was thinking about a YANK but i wanted to hear what you guys had to say...... Anything is appreciated!!!!

Camaro396

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Yank SS3600 to SS4000

Joes98Blackbird

Sweet!!!!!

1BADLS1tuner

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Yank stalls are great! Dave has TOP NOTCH service also!

mrvedit

My Yank 3600 is amazingly tight on the street; much tighter than the TCI 3200 I had before it.

FirstYrLS1Z

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My Yank SS3600 is tighter in DD city than my TCI 2800 was.

70hemicuda

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Consider circle d specialties. Some quality stuff coming out of there. Fill out an ask Chris and he'll get you set up

soundengineer

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I daily Drive a Yank PY3600 stalled to 4800

I have no issues with it....
Personally, I love my setup


how much of a stall you can handle, all depends on your personal preferences and how your motor is setup

your best option would be to ask some people if you can test drive their vehicle for 15-20 minutes(with them in the passenger seat) to see what their stalls feel like

if you find one that is too loose for your personal taste..... then dont buy one that loose...

mjs1012

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I dd an ss3600 in my bolt on car and IMO it's perfect. It's a tight converter for its size and has great drive ability. I personally don't think I could dd anything bigger. I'm sure if I had to I could but wouldn't want to. Depending on what you want to do with the car (street or strip) it's a great all around converter. Like said someone said before Dave at yank has excellent customer service. He helped me out when he sent me the wrong converter and walked me through the install.

RevGTO

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Interesting. I would say my SS3600 is slightly looser than the TCI 3000 I had before it, but almost identical. I raised my part-throttle shift points some to compensate.Agree.

soundengineer

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theres a lot of things that determine how a stall feels...
power of engine
physical size of stall (8", 9", 10", 11" ?)
rear gears
gears in the tranny
even tire size can play into how the stall feels

no to mention... Just because its a 3600 stall, doesnt mean its the same series.....
yank is a good example...
SS, PT, PY....all feel quite a bit different...

mrvedit

Forgot that there are different Yank models.
I have a Yank SS3600.
I can accelerate crisply from a stop light with shifts around 2700 (well below stall speed). 500HP, 4L60E, 3.42 rear, 26" tires.

Siciliano15

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I have to say, the yank ss3600 i have in my car is great for stall and launches well, but the lockup clutch on it is really poor quality. my transmission is in great condition and has no issues but i had to use the hptuners to eliminate lockup at any more than 50% throttle because the clutch wont hold. dynoing the car while locked up is also impossible. this was never an issue on the stock converter.

I have a precision industries 3800 converter on my dakota r/t and that will stay locked up even at WOT and thats with 350rwhp and 350ft-lbs. I would seriously recommend precision industries vigilante converters over yank any day of the week as the yank lockup clutches are very well known to be weak. I would never buy another yank converter.

lemons12

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An 800$ converter isn't what I call budget.

I recommend PTCs 450$ converter. They also build a better performing unit from my experience.
Under 550$ shipped for a converter and cooler.

Buddies 98 trans am with nothing more than exhaust lid and ptc converter cut 1.6 short times and ran 7.7s@88mph.. 273 gears stock ls1 intake stock tune stock everything..z Full weight + tool box etc..

RevGTO

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I've been on this forum for a long time and I can't recall anyone else complaining about the quality of the clutches on billet cover Yank converters. But I wouldn't run a stock tune with PWM on any 9.5 or 10" converter. The Transgo HD-2 solves this problem with it's revised TCC valve.

Non-billet cover TCI converters really do have weak clutches. I ran one for 3 years and 24,000 miles with zero problems. I attribute this to the use of the Transgo.

Siciliano15

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maybe not on these boards but google it. google yank converter lockup slip and you will find a ton of people with this issue. one thing to note is that its on the SS series not the super high end PT series and other ones. i had to do lots of tuning with the help of Frost plus some of my own tweaks to get it to not slip under just moderate throttle.

mrvedit

I just posted on another thread that I suspect many/most aftermarket converters are not designed for TCC PWM (EC3) setup which softens the TCC engagement and release by letting the TCC slip quite a bit. As RevGTO mentions, the Transgo HD2 kit, the Sonnax Performance (Shift) kit and some code-1870 fixes replace the stock TCC PWM valve with a simpler on/off valve which disables PWM.

I hope the various converter manufactures can confirm or correct this.
If true, then they really should recommend making this mod to the transmission.

I recall that the stock tune disables the TCC above 50% throttle and some people reduce that to even 25% for high HP engines. I'm pretty sure that all the converter manufacturers, with single-plate clutches, recommend turning off TCC above 50% throttle and not performing WOT tests locked-up.

In terms of the Yank SS having more complaints than others, please remember that it is also one of the more popular converters. Also any bad practices, tunes, etc will cause more converter damage in a heavy truck than in our lighter cars, which might explain why there are no such complaints in this forum.
(I did have by Yank's TCC fail, but it was my fault - a pump modification I tried failed and ruined the converter. And Yank still fixed it for nominal cost.)

Joes98Blackbird

I love all of the these replys, but im looking for a DD stall that i can driver everyday and maybe hit the track on the weekends, but i don't wanna lose any of my top-end speed(150-160 plus)/ yes, i have a need for speed too, 3600 is kind of big but I guess that i would have to drive a car with one to get a feel for it.

lemons12

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A converter doesn't effect top speed.

A 3600 is average, anything less is small.. 4000 is above average. 4400+ is a large converter.

08GXPLS4

Throw that dacco in the garbage can and get a YANK!!! Every dacco converter i have seen in a highstall app drives like **** on the street and usually blows up