Derale Cooler Pan..
Derale Cooler Pan.. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/de...s/make/pontiac
Has anyone used one of these? I'm thinking about getting one.. are they as effective as an auxillary trans cooler mounted up front?
Has anyone used one of these? I'm thinking about getting one.. are they as effective as an auxillary trans cooler mounted up front?
Last edited by Bullitt117; Feb 13, 2013 at 10:31 PM.
No way they are as effective. And your filter has to sit
above the tubes, so you have more hang-down for no
benefit in fluid-level-over-filter. I much prefer the truck
pan and truck filter.
above the tubes, so you have more hang-down for no
benefit in fluid-level-over-filter. I much prefer the truck
pan and truck filter.
Several people on here have said they are effective.. I'm looking for someone who has used one personally and has a testament to how well they work. I don't really want to install a cooler and this looks to be a decent alternative.
"Effective" as in "does anything at all", perhaps. "As
effective", no way. You're airflow limited through
those tubes, only road draft, and have much less
"fin area".
Sometimes doing what you don't want to do, is
still the right answer.
effective", no way. You're airflow limited through
those tubes, only road draft, and have much less
"fin area".
Sometimes doing what you don't want to do, is
still the right answer.
The pan comes with a trans temp sender bung.. I'm going to install the pan without a cooler and monitor the temps. If they get too high I'll install the cooler as well.
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That pan is going to be very susceptible to damage; I personally wouldn't use it if it guaranteed a 50F temperature drop (which it won't) and I was paid $200 for it. There is a story on one of the forums of someone who figured that as long as their engine oil pan didn't sit lower than their headers they would be OK. Then they hit a raised manhole cover on a paved road. I recall that the damage was far more than just engine replacement.
You might get away without a cooler with a stock converter, but with any high stall converter you will need a big cooler. I don't remember the exact numbers now, but if a trans lasts 100,000 miles at 150F, it will last only 10,000 miles at 200F; they hate extra heat.
Take the advice from someone with 11,000+ posts here.
You might get away without a cooler with a stock converter, but with any high stall converter you will need a big cooler. I don't remember the exact numbers now, but if a trans lasts 100,000 miles at 150F, it will last only 10,000 miles at 200F; they hate extra heat.
Take the advice from someone with 11,000+ posts here.
I don't know if I'll end up with one of these or not. I'd like to give one a try, ground clearance wont be an issue, I wont be lowering the car. They are expensive though. I have had several people say they work from personal experience.
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if you are using this pan as the only cooler, it wont work-its designed to help knock down maybe a few degrees to help a cooler, but not a replacement for a cooler-could be an expensive lesson, lol
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One of the times you really need a trans cooler is during stop-and-go traffic where you are constantly accelerator below the stall speed of the converter. With no air flow under the car, it will get very hot.
People buy expensive gimmicks and their pride makes them want to believe it works, and they then claim it works.
The truck pan is a good choice; it holds an extra quart which by itself will lower temperatures. (That is probably the only way that pan lowers temps anyway.) Also avoid chrome plated oil pans - over the time the chrome plating corrodes and leaves paths for oil leaks. After several tries, I found an ebay seller with a deep (1 extra quart) aluminum pan.
