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Old Oct 26, 2014 | 10:12 PM
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I have a aluminum flex plate and have a set of arp bolts that are .880 long and when put though the plate they stick out just over 1/2" or .520 is that enough thread engagement? I know the rule is 1.5 x the bolt width which is around .649 so we are talking .130 light.
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Old Oct 27, 2014 | 10:18 PM
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Anyone?
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Are you talking about the flexplate to crank bolts or the flexplate to converter bolts?
On the flexplate to crank bolts I would definitely use ARP, but longer as IIRC the crank threads are quite deep. The flexplate to converter bolts have much less shear force on them (much larger diameter circle) and .520 is probably plenty. You should check how far the threads will even turn into the converter before they bottom out, it might not be much more than that.

I'm no expert on this exact subject, but you said "anyone".
Perhaps Chris or Brian from Circle D will give you a more definitive answer.
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I'm talking flexplate to crank bolts and i have ARP bolts problem is they dont make any longer except Circle D's version which are $60 double the cost of the other bolts which i think is to high.
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Old Oct 28, 2014 | 09:02 AM
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going into steel you only need 1x bolt diameter. into aluminum you should shoot for 1.5x bolt diameter
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Old Oct 28, 2014 | 07:47 PM
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I know i said that in my first post!
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According to my ARP catalog those are M11x1.5 thread and .880 long as you mentioned. I looked through the ARP "bulk" listings and they have nothing for M11. In other words, M11 is an unusual thread size.
I also installed a thick aluminum flexplate, but don't remember what bolts I used, probably the GM stock ones which seemed long enough.
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Old Oct 28, 2014 | 10:43 PM
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Yes they are not a common size at all I did find a Arp set fot a LS flywheel which are 244-2902 I asked about the specs and was told they are 1.075 UTH length but they have a shoulder which is .460 so they would bottom out before they got tight.
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Old Oct 30, 2014 | 07:56 AM
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Factory thread engagement for the crank bolts is about .800 with the stock bolt and stock flex plate. The aluminum flex plate we sell is about .400 thick in the crank bolt area, but i'm not sure this is the one you have. We had ARP custom make bolts for this specific application They are not threaded where it would contact the flex plate so as not to chew up the aluminum, and they are long enough for proper thread engagement.

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My TCI 2800 convertor(no longer in vehicle) came with M11mmx1.50 bolts. Don't know how long they are/were. You might want to check with TCI on what they have in the M11x1.50 realm.

Measured them,full thread under head,29/32"(.910") long.

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I have a reactor plate and as I said I know you guys have longer bolts but like I also said they are twice the cost of the .880 long arp bolts which I think is to high.
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Old Oct 31, 2014 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by 6togo
I have a reactor plate and as I said I know you guys have longer bolts but like I also said they are twice the cost of the .880 long arp bolts which I think is to high.
Attached is a pic we took a while back showing the GM bolt options with our custom ARP bolt. You can see GM also makes a longer fully threaded version for the LSA Manual setups. But I think they are about $7. Getting ARP to custom make bolts was not cheap, I think they are a very fair price. Be happy to help, let us know if you want to get them ordered.

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How long is the unthreaded section of your bolts?
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Based on the pic,the threaded section of the 29mm CDS ARP looks the same length as the 11569956 23mm bolt,that would leave 6mm (.240"/1/4") unthreaded.

A good pic for reference numbers ! Thanks !
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How long is the unthreaded section of your bolts?
The unthreaded shoulder is .350.

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My plate measures around .360 at the bolt area so would that not be super close to bottoming out?
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Originally Posted by 6togo
My plate measures around .360 at the bolt area so would that not be super close to bottoming out?
You will be good. The .350 is at the top of the taper. Really closer to .330-320 before it would bottom out.

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