Will I be disappointed?
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From: New Franklin, OH
Will I be disappointed? I never put much thought in to the rear end of my car, I am dropping in a stock LQ4 with a 4L80E. The rear gears are 2.73. It's a cruiser, might see a track once or twice in it's life. Will I be depressed when i hit the pedal for "funnsies"?
Yes.... Put a stall in. My gf has a bolt on ls1 camaro a4 with 2.73's. It was a dog! Just finished doing a 4k stall and its moves!!! Shift extensions are great and no more dead spots in certain moh rolls
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I wasn't planning on using the stock stall at this point. I want to upgrade that before it goes in. All the threads a looked at suggested to use the stock stall as an anchor and nothing else. lol
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New Franklin Ohio,just down I77 from me.Cleveland area. 3.73s' with a 3500-4000 stall is a popular combo here in the forum. Don't consider something below 3500 and only from a good company such as Yank,CircleD,or other comparable good ones.
I'll put some links in to other threads.
I'll put some links in to other threads.
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From: Schiller Park, ILL Member: #317
Just for the sake of comparison, and assuming same tire diameter, a 4L80E/TH400 with a 2.73 final gear is like having a 700R4/4L60E with a 2.21 final gear at launch and throughout 1st gear. Or, on the flip side, having a 700R4/4L60E with a 2.73 (very common with the 4th gens) is like having a 4L80E/TH400 with a 3.37 at launch and throughout 1st gear. Without the aggressive 3.06:1 internal first gear of a 4L60E/700R4, he may want a bit more final gear ratio to tighten things up.
Does that '72 Chevelle have an 8.5" 10-bolt? If so, you could consider a 3.08, 3.23 or 3.42, in addition to the higher stall, for a nice improvement in street manners while still maintaining decent highway rpms. For the 8.5", it would be a 3-series carrier if the rear was originally a 2.73 or [numerically] higher ratio.
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New Franklin Ohio,just down I77 from me.Cleveland area. 3.73s' with a 3500-4000 stall is a popular combo here in the forum. Don't consider something below 3500 and only from a good company such as Yank,CircleD,or other comparable good ones.
I'll put some links in to other threads.
I'll put some links in to other threads.
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If we were talking about an LS1/4L60E combo I would agree 100%, but as the OP has a 4L80E his internal 1st gear is only a 2.48:1 (vs. 3.06:1 for the 4L60Es found in LS1 F-bodies.) That numerically lower internal 1st gear, plus the fact that his Chevelle likely weighs a bit more than the average 4th gen F-body, will make that 2.73 feel much more sluggish than what would be typical for a 4th gen F-body.
Just for the sake of comparison, and assuming same tire diameter, a 4L80E/TH400 with a 2.73 final gear is like having a 700R4/4L60E with a 2.21 final gear at launch and throughout 1st gear. Or, on the flip side, having a 700R4/4L60E with a 2.73 (very common with the 4th gens) is like having a 4L80E/TH400 with a 3.37 at launch and throughout 1st gear. Without the aggressive 3.06:1 internal first gear of a 4L60E/700R4, he may want a bit more final gear ratio to tighten things up.
Does that '72 Chevelle have an 8.5" 10-bolt? If so, you could consider a 3.08, 3.23 or 3.42, in addition to the higher stall, for a nice improvement in street manners while still maintaining decent highway rpms. For the 8.5", it would be a 3-series carrier if the rear was originally a 2.73 or [numerically] higher ratio.
Just for the sake of comparison, and assuming same tire diameter, a 4L80E/TH400 with a 2.73 final gear is like having a 700R4/4L60E with a 2.21 final gear at launch and throughout 1st gear. Or, on the flip side, having a 700R4/4L60E with a 2.73 (very common with the 4th gens) is like having a 4L80E/TH400 with a 3.37 at launch and throughout 1st gear. Without the aggressive 3.06:1 internal first gear of a 4L60E/700R4, he may want a bit more final gear ratio to tighten things up.
Does that '72 Chevelle have an 8.5" 10-bolt? If so, you could consider a 3.08, 3.23 or 3.42, in addition to the higher stall, for a nice improvement in street manners while still maintaining decent highway rpms. For the 8.5", it would be a 3-series carrier if the rear was originally a 2.73 or [numerically] higher ratio.
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From: Schiller Park, ILL Member: #317
As this is an 8.5" 10-bolt, it should be a 3 series carrier if it was a stock 2.73 rear. 2 series should be 2.56 and numerically lower on the 8.5". This is different from the break point on the 7.5/7.625" or 8.2" 10-bolt.