Th400 build thread.
#22
So no one is going to listen to me anyway, thats usually how it works.
Why did you buy that sprag? I'd bet a few hundred that your core trans has a roller clutch and you need a drum which you could buy off ebay for about the same price. If you buy a performance direct drum it's going to have a sprag and race.
The TCI kit, has bushings.....TWO the pump and tail housing.
I'd also bet money you could reuse your steels.
I payed a non sponsor $204 for Raybestos frictions, moulded pistons, gasket and sealing ring kit, transgo high temp ring kit, bushings (all of them), washers, filter. All name brand. AND FOR A 2006 4L80E!
Your TCI kit is a refresh kit, no internal bushings, no washers, no torrington bearings, etc.
Not trying to be a dick but someone has to speak the truth and not get all excited over pictures of boxes and parts you don't even need.
Why did you buy that sprag? I'd bet a few hundred that your core trans has a roller clutch and you need a drum which you could buy off ebay for about the same price. If you buy a performance direct drum it's going to have a sprag and race.
The TCI kit, has bushings.....TWO the pump and tail housing.
I'd also bet money you could reuse your steels.
I payed a non sponsor $204 for Raybestos frictions, moulded pistons, gasket and sealing ring kit, transgo high temp ring kit, bushings (all of them), washers, filter. All name brand. AND FOR A 2006 4L80E!
Your TCI kit is a refresh kit, no internal bushings, no washers, no torrington bearings, etc.
Not trying to be a dick but someone has to speak the truth and not get all excited over pictures of boxes and parts you don't even need.
#23
So no one is going to listen to me anyway, thats usually how it works.
Why did you buy that sprag? I'd bet a few hundred that your core trans has a roller clutch and you need a drum which you could buy off ebay for about the same price. If you buy a performance direct drum it's going to have a sprag and race.
The TCI kit, has bushings.....TWO the pump and tail housing.
I'd also bet money you could reuse your steels.
I payed a non sponsor $204 for Raybestos frictions, moulded pistons, gasket and sealing ring kit, transgo high temp ring kit, bushings (all of them), washers, filter. All name brand. AND FOR A 2006 4L80E!
Your TCI kit is a refresh kit, no internal bushings, no washers, no torrington bearings, etc.
Not trying to be a dick but someone has to speak the truth and not get all excited over pictures of boxes and parts you don't even need.
Why did you buy that sprag? I'd bet a few hundred that your core trans has a roller clutch and you need a drum which you could buy off ebay for about the same price. If you buy a performance direct drum it's going to have a sprag and race.
The TCI kit, has bushings.....TWO the pump and tail housing.
I'd also bet money you could reuse your steels.
I payed a non sponsor $204 for Raybestos frictions, moulded pistons, gasket and sealing ring kit, transgo high temp ring kit, bushings (all of them), washers, filter. All name brand. AND FOR A 2006 4L80E!
Your TCI kit is a refresh kit, no internal bushings, no washers, no torrington bearings, etc.
Not trying to be a dick but someone has to speak the truth and not get all excited over pictures of boxes and parts you don't even need.
#24
Roughly. But you may be money ahead finding someone on here that's looking to sell one. I almost wish I had done that. Would probably save you some cash. And the $2300 would cover your interior pieces, unless you went all out on it.
#27
Thanks for filling me in. I have no experience with autos at all so some of the stuff you posted I wouldn't know if it came with a new trans I would buy or if I had to buy it separately. I'll probably talk with a sponsor when I'm ready to make sure I don't overspend.
#28
Finally got motivated and figured I would disassemble the transmission tonight, went to rent a puller to get the input shaft yolk off. Didn't go very well. Guess I will try some penetrating oil tomorrow. And btw, if anyone is looking for a cheap...but effective way to heat up their gar
age, I highly endorse the double headed propane unit from the freight $70 and well worth it.
age, I highly endorse the double headed propane unit from the freight $70 and well worth it.
#30
Is that converter for a turbo application?
#31
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No I got my built for a nitrous application. But you can call them and talk to them and get the converter for your application for whatever you're doing. Whatever shifters you decide to get PM Just a Fool he's on here on Tech he makes brackets to mount the shifter in the stock location. I'm currently using his bracket installed it today it's pretty awesome. Shout out to him
You can see the bracket in the picture and then in the other picture I have where it's mounted I'll take some better pictures tomorrow. I got the trans mounted with the cross tonight but I got tired and I got cold I'll try to finish up tomorrow. Might even swing by Harbor Freight for that propane heating tank LOL
You can see the bracket in the picture and then in the other picture I have where it's mounted I'll take some better pictures tomorrow. I got the trans mounted with the cross tonight but I got tired and I got cold I'll try to finish up tomorrow. Might even swing by Harbor Freight for that propane heating tank LOL
#32
#33
I'd pull the pump first, thats just me. Behind the pump you see the most interesting things. All of the clutches, the wear will give you an idea of mileage. You'll see the direct drum and can check to see if it's a roller clutch or sprag type.
Don't know if you know, but to get the pump out remove all the bolts. You will see two threaded holes in the pump, those are for 3/8-16 bolts. I use 1 1/4" long bolts and a 12" crow bar. Thats what the holes are for.
Don't know if you know, but to get the pump out remove all the bolts. You will see two threaded holes in the pump, those are for 3/8-16 bolts. I use 1 1/4" long bolts and a 12" crow bar. Thats what the holes are for.
#34
I'd pull the pump first, thats just me. Behind the pump you see the most interesting things. All of the clutches, the wear will give you an idea of mileage. You'll see the direct drum and can check to see if it's a roller clutch or sprag type.
Don't know if you know, but to get the pump out remove all the bolts. You will see two threaded holes in the pump, those are for 3/8-16 bolts. I use 1 1/4" long bolts and a 12" crow bar. Thats what the holes are for.
Don't know if you know, but to get the pump out remove all the bolts. You will see two threaded holes in the pump, those are for 3/8-16 bolts. I use 1 1/4" long bolts and a 12" crow bar. Thats what the holes are for.
#38
Ok, so I got it tore down and things were decent I guess. I guess I should have tore it down before I ordered the parts. The direct drum has no sprag. The direct, forward and intermediate clutches were so so, some were brital and fell apart. Some of the steels look like they may have seen some heat at some point. The low/reverse band looks fine, but I might go ahead and replace it since I'm already here. Will be spending some quality time cleaning the case next week before the build.
Last edited by Game ova; 12-10-2016 at 11:26 PM.
#39
Ok, so this transmission does not have a sprag on the forward drum...but has a roller clutch on the reaction carrier. Is there an upgrade for it? And the output shaft is much larger than the t56, it would seem to be a no brainer to keep the big output shaft, and just get a bigger driveshaft yolk to accommodate it....but just want to be absolutely sure instead of assuming.
#40
Ok, so this transmission does not have a sprag on the forward drum...but has a roller clutch on the reaction carrier. Is there an upgrade for it? And the output shaft is much larger than the t56, it would seem to be a no brainer to keep the big output shaft, and just get a bigger driveshaft yolk to accommodate it....but just want to be absolutely sure instead of assuming.
Has a roller clutch on the on the reaction carrier, most do, except 1964 and 1965 th400's. I used to run a 36 element sprag there, found a low mileage reaction carrier. Usually 1965 and low mileage don't exist these days. I don't know that the roller clutch there is a high failure item.
You're right about keeping the 32 spline output. You're going to need a counter bored yoke (not yolk). Makes no sense to track down a 28 spline output shaft and extension housing.