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Old Jan 3, 2018 | 04:00 PM
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I was looking at 2800-3200 converters and at my work I found a Hay's torque converter and I can get it at a good price I just wanted to know if they are a good brand? Any info will be appreciated!
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Old Jan 3, 2018 | 04:56 PM
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I was looking at 2800-3200 converters and at my work I found a Hay's torque converter and I can get it at a good price I just wanted to know if they are a good brand? Any info will be appreciated!
Thats a stock v6 rebuild with some additional internal welding, and an adapter kit. Just like a TCI streetfighter. But probably better than a B&M. I wouldn't put a B&M in my lawn mower.

They are probably ok for non lock up transmissions, but for a transmission with lockup they still have the weak, little, inadequate lock up clutch.

Do a search on Fuddle converters. They went from the hot ticket budget converters to the biggest piles of **** that were ever produced. Because enough of them got out there and got used.

Sure they look good in a video. Find a picture of the lock up clutch.
Why don't they show the tiny lock up clutch in the video?

You might get it at a good price, but add that good price to the cost of taking it back out and putting a real one in, or hell even putting it back to stock. It makes more sense to just get a real one. It was the same argument with fuddle 10 - 12 years ago. Look how many people wasted their money and had regrets.

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Old Jan 3, 2018 | 08:20 PM
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+1 ^^^
The members here who "finally" buy a top quality $700+ converter unanimously wish they had skipped all the cheap converters. The extra $400 you spend on a top quality converter from one of the sponsors will be the most cost effective upgrade you will ever make to your car. More cost effective than a fancy intake or anything else in that price range.
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save your $$ and buy a quality billet converter from a sponsor. you wont believe the night & day performance difference. i did lose gas milage partly do to my 2:73 gears but wow when you hit the gas. it feels like 75-100 rwhp extra. ps i went with 3000 & i should have picked 3600. you will need a retune for the converter to run perfect. car will run without retune. old thread pictures not loading for me but check this out https://ls1tech.com/forums/automatic...education.html

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Old Jan 4, 2018 | 10:55 AM
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Do what others are advising and buy a quality one instead of wishing you would have later on. I have a Yank 3600 in my 01 and it's a top notch quality piece. I had a local transmission shop ride/drive in the car after some 4l60e work and they were going to start recommending Yank converters over what they had before.
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Old Jan 4, 2018 | 03:58 PM
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Yep,do it right the first time.
The wrong one initially(first one)-cost of convertor 400 ?,cost of installation 500 ?,installation time 1 day.
Re-doing with a good one-cost of convertor 800 ?,cost of installation 500 ?,installation time 1 day.
Doing it as above,installation cost 500 lost,installation time 1 day lost,and then having a used $400 convertor that nobody wants.
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All the fastest cars run Hays converters dont yall know that?
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All the fastest cars run Hays converters dont yall know that?
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is it a willie mays hays converter?
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OP if you're strapped for cash and need a lower cost option, call PTC, they build good converters for around $450.
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Originally Posted by mjs1012
OP if you're strapped for cash and need a lower cost option, call PTC, they build good converters for around $450.
And it'll be the same rebuilt v6 converter with an adapter kit.

Not trying to be a smartass. Thats just what it is.
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Old Jan 7, 2018 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by mjs1012
OP if you're strapped for cash and need a lower cost option, call PTC, they build good converters for around $450.
Cash is fine right now. I just thought I'd ask sense I work at a place they sell them so I could get a good discount. I learned not to get it so I'm gonna stick with my original plan
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Old Jan 7, 2018 | 04:19 PM
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What's your original plan,out of curiosity ?
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Old Jan 7, 2018 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by FirstYrLS1Z
What's your original plan,out of curiosity ?
Getting under drive pulley and LS6 intake then a yank 3200 stall farther down the road. I was planing on getting a yank the whole time then found out my work sold converters so I just wanted your guys option on it
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Old Jan 7, 2018 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by LS_Power
Getting under drive pulley and LS6 intake then a yank 3200 stall farther down the road. I was planing on getting a yank the whole time then found out my work sold converters so I just wanted your guys option on it
Go to at least a ss3600
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Old Jan 8, 2018 | 05:18 AM
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^^^ agree,SS3600 minimum.
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Old Jan 8, 2018 | 04:42 PM
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Agreed on the SS3600, but I would strongly suggest getting the SS3600 first and getting a different intake later. The SS3600 will make a huge seat-of-the-pants difference, while switching from a LS1 to an LS6 intake will barely make a difference on a dyno.

IMHO, the LS6 intake gives poor ROI. For one, they are very expensive; I sold one on ebay for $550! While more expensive, the FAST LSXR will give you a seat-of-the-pants improvement.

Here is a great dyno comparisons of most available LS1 compatible intakes:
http://www.hotrod.com/articles/20-ls...ifolds-tested/

Stock LS1: Ave TQ (3,000–7,000): 438.6 lb-ft
Stock LS6: Ave TQ (3,000–7,000): 450.9 lb-ft
FAST LXSR: Ave TQ (3,000–7,000): 468.4 lb-ft

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Originally Posted by DANOZ28
is it a willie mays hays converter?
I found a Willie Mays Hays converter at the junkyard today.
I can't believe I forgot to get a picture of the th350 that spit it out. The input shaft was bent at a 35 degree angle.

I hope this was made back in the 60's, anyone making this sort of thing these days

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thx man! seeing that made me chuckle even though im having a friday the 13th morning. willie mays hays was a movie reference from major league if some didnt catch that.
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You should be scared of anything that the company calls "3/4 Race".
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