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Old Sep 27, 2019 | 10:17 PM
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When I was looking for the oil pan that Summit mentioned Adv Auto popped up. I never did anything other than look at it. The next day I get an email from them for 20% off. The following day I get another email, this time with 25% off. Maybe should have waited a few more days!
I do order more from Summit, but sometimes Jegs has stuff that Summit doesn't carry.
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Old Sep 28, 2019 | 10:25 AM
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When I was looking for the oil pan that Summit mentioned Adv Auto popped up. I never did anything other than look at it. The next day I get an email from them for 20% off. The following day I get another email, this time with 25% off. Maybe should have waited a few more days!
I do order more from Summit, but sometimes Jegs has stuff that Summit doesn't carry.
Who was offering you the discount? Summit or Advance? When I order from advance I get a 25% code from retailmenot.
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Old Sep 28, 2019 | 10:44 AM
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Old Sep 28, 2019 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Jays_SSZ28
Who was offering you the discount? Summit or Advance? When I order from advance I get a 25% code from retailmenot.
Advance Auto was.
When I order from either Summit or Jeg's I always try to get the order above $99 for the free shipping.
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Old Oct 25, 2019 | 06:07 PM
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I've had the pan for a few weeks just never got around to put it on, hope to do it tomorrow.
Some of the reviews trashed the pan for the sealing flange not being made right.
Guess that was fixed as this pan looks much better than the pan on my LS3.
It didn't come with magnets, I'll take the ones out of the other pan.



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Old Oct 25, 2019 | 07:01 PM
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That makes zero sense to put a plug that hangs down like that when it has a divot in the pan for a plug. The divot protects the plug from getting ripped out on speed bumps, **** in the road etc. no way would I ever put a pan on my car with a drain plug hanging like that.
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Old Oct 25, 2019 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Kfxguy
That makes zero sense to put a plug that hangs down like that when it has a divot in the pan for a plug. The divot protects the plug from getting ripped out on speed bumps, **** in the road etc. no way would I ever put a pan on my car with a drain plug hanging like that.
The engine oil pan hangs down lower than the tranny pan drain plug.
I'm not worried.
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Old Nov 2, 2019 | 11:02 AM
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The Dorman pan is on after a bit of modification to the filter. Maybe it wouldn't be an issue on a 4L60?? The LS pan was about 1/8" deeper.
I trimmed the ridge on the filter slightly as well as the feet on the filter to get the pan to sit flat on the tranny.




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Old Nov 2, 2019 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by JimLev
The engine oil pan hangs down lower than the tranny pan drain plug.
I'm not worried.
You do realize that the 4L60E and the 4L65E are the same transmission (The 65E supposedly a slightly more heavy duty unit)...

The 4L60E, 4L65E, 4L70E, and 4L75E are all the same transmission with slightly different parts inside.

The black oil pan you have would commonly be installed on light duty trucks... the different size and depth oil pans for these transmissions are interchangeable along with the corresponding pick-up/ filter assembly.
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The THM700-R4/ 4L60E oil pans come in several different size and depths since these transmissions were used in many kinds of cars and trucks.
I always recommend at least trying to find an OEM pan in the size/ shape desired first before looking to the aftermarket.

Aftermarket parts in general often to not fit well or properly (Yes of course there are many great and higher quality than OEM parts from the aftermarket)
Mostly aftermarket transmission oil pans are also poor fitting or designed in a way that may prevent the transmission from properly operating.
A person must take great care to compare and contrast new parts to the originals to ensure compatibility and proper operation.

For example: often times I will come across an oil pan for one of these transmissions; and the servo exhaust hole in the pan rail will be blocked off by the oil pan flange... NOT GOOD.

Look at the pan rail at the top of the photo, the servo exhaust hole is towards the right side of the photo (not indicated by an arrow).



Here is an oil pan from Moroso, that has no clearance or passage manufactured into the oil pan flange... not allowing servo exhaust fluid to return to the sump.




Here are some photos of me making a very small modification to the oil pan (which Moroso could have fixed by now); creating clearance for the fluid to return to the oil pan.





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Old Nov 2, 2019 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by vorteciroc
You do realize that the 4L60E and the 4L65E are the same transmission (The 65E supposedly a slightly more heavy duty unit)...

The 4L60E, 4L65E, 4L70E, and 4L75E are all the same transmission with slightly different parts inside.

The black oil pan you have would commonly be installed on light duty trucks... the different size and depth oil pans for these transmissions are interchangeable along with the corresponding pick-up/ filter assembly.
Do you have a point here?
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Old Nov 2, 2019 | 06:31 PM
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Yes I do. The 65e has a 5 gear planetary as opposed to the 4 gear on the 60e.
Most pans I saw for the 60e were only 2 3/8" deep, too shallow for my tranny.
I went on the word from the summit post and others above that it would fit.
Never new the 1/16" edge of the filter would be a problem. My filter has a long neck so I think that is the only one I can use.
Its all back together and back in the car. I'll look into different filters down the road.

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Old Nov 2, 2019 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by JimLev
Yes I do. The 65e has a 5 gear planetary as opposed to the 4 gear on the 60e.
Most pans I saw for the 60e were only 2 3/4" deep, too shallow for my tranny.
I went on the word from the summit post and others above that it would fit.
Never new the 1/16" edge of the filter would be a problem. My filter has a long neck so I think that is the only one I can use.
Its all back together and back in the car. I'll look into different filters down the road.
Didn't I quote someone else?

Yea I see where you bought a pan, modified the filter, installed the pan, DONE.

Now why are we now discussing the differences between all 4L transmissions and posting pictures of pans.

Looked like the thread was finished to me.
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Old Nov 2, 2019 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by JimLev
Yes I do. The 65e has a 5 gear planetary as opposed to the 4 gear on the 60e.
So you think thats why you had to grind the filter?

Not seeing the point here.
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Old Nov 2, 2019 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by vorteciroc

For example: often times I will come across an oil pan for one of these transmissions; and the servo exhaust hole in the pan rail will be blocked off by the oil pan flange... NOT GOOD.

Look at the pan rail at the top of the photo, the servo exhaust hole is towards the right side of the photo (not indicated by an arrow).



Here is an oil pan from Moroso, that has no clearance or passage manufactured into the oil pan flange... not allowing servo exhaust fluid to return to the sump.
I did notice that hole, the pan and gasket I used did have that notch.
Not sure what would happen if it was blocked. This is the first slushbox I've ever worked on.
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Old Nov 2, 2019 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by JimLev
Not sure what would happen if it was blocked.
The band would drag and burn up.
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Originally Posted by Jays_SSZ28
Do you have a point here?
Yes.
It would seem that the OP was under the impression that the 4L60E and 4L65E were different transmissions from some of his posts...

For example:

Originally Posted by JimLev
I've looked at a lot of pans, most don't say it's for the 4L65e. I assume the 4L60 has the same bolt pattern?
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Old Nov 2, 2019 | 07:14 PM
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Yea I didn't catch that as I didn't see it as a problem. Doesn't matter if it was a 700 or a 4L70E or anything in between as long as it has the dimples for the solenoids it should fit the case the same.

I just see the filter being ground down because it wasn't seated all the way.
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Originally Posted by Jays_SSZ28
Yea I didn't catch that as I didn't see it as a problem. Doesn't matter if it was a 700 or a 4L70E or anything in between as long as it has the dimples for the solenoids it should fit the case the same.

I just see the filter being ground down because it wasn't seated all the way.
That's cool Jays, you are pretty much always on top of things anyway.

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Old Nov 2, 2019 | 08:31 PM
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The filter was seated as far down as it would go. The issue was the depth of the pan was 1/8" less than the original LS pan.
Once I shaved the edge of the filter the pan would sit down flush on the tranny.
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