tci converter?
tci converter? Anyone here use rpmoutlets tci converter streetfighter 3000 stahl or super street fighter 3600 stahl? There description says up to 700hp and can support power adder or n2o? Also anyone seen a power increase on a bolt on only car with headers and torque converter or better track times and what was the difference?
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Don't do it man!!! Save up for a quality converter with a billet cover. I had a TCI converter that exploded after only 2 months and nether TCI or Summit would warranty it. These TCI converters are very loose also, where a quality converter is much better suited for street driving. I have a Yank 4000 stall converter that is way more street friendly than a 3000 stall TCI. Buy once cry once. Torque converters and camshafts affect the cars drivability more than any other part. The torque converter is not a part that you would want to skimp on.
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Don't do it man!!! Save up for a quality converter with a billet cover. I had a TCI converter that exploded after only 2 months and nether TCI or Summit would warranty it. These TCI converters are very loose also, where a quality converter is much better suited for street driving. I have a Yank 4000 stall converter that is way more street friendly than a 3000 stall TCI. Buy once cry once. Torque converters and camshafts affect the cars drivability more than any other part. The torque converter is not a part that you would want to skimp on.
I had a TCI SF3000 for three years/24k miles and many trips to the track, and it performed flawlessly. The serious flaw with these converters is that TCI uses the stock 4 cyl converter front cover with its clutch. There's no way that clutch can handle LS1 power over the long haul. Especially if PWM is enabled, that clutch will get chewed up and spit itself out throughout the transmission, creating a huge disaster.
That's why I switched to the Yank SS3600 (w/billet front cover), even though I was very happy with how the TCI performed. The Yank flashed about 500 rpm higher off the line, but otherwise the two converters felt identical.
all non billet cover 10" units use the stock opel clutch friction package. it works fine if you limit TCC apply to less than 15% throttle and > 50mph
that said i wouldnt use TCI ANYTHING even if it was FREE. Pure trash.
that said i wouldnt use TCI ANYTHING even if it was FREE. Pure trash.
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Verdad Gallardo Man thats terrible news this is my first auto i had two t56 cars a 98 and 95 camaro. This is for a c5 99 yank, The good fti, precision, circle d are upwards of 1000$ for these cars. My dads 2004 gto converter circle d was 400-500$. He had problems with it locking up at first but changed the fluid to clean fluid and started locking up after. How about the fti FTI Performance ESRL3082 FTI Performance ESR Series Torque Converters | Summit Racing These are the two tci i was looking at. This one says antiballoon plate but no lock up and this is the standard streetfighter. . What else do you have in mind or would work there is a hays converter and how about b&m holeshot? Now any idea how much power the stock converter can handle? I mean is the tci worse then the stock? Im rebuilding my torque tube on my 99 c5 and looking for a 9.5-10" converter. Im looking for a converter that could handle 450whp-500whp tops.
I agree completely with this advice but my experience was different.
I had a TCI SF3000 for three years/24k miles and many trips to the track, and it performed flawlessly. The serious flaw with these converters is that TCI uses the stock 4 cyl converter front cover with its clutch. There's no way that clutch can handle LS1 power over the long haul. Especially if PWM is enabled, that clutch will get chewed up and spit itself out throughout the transmission, creating a huge disaster.
That's why I switched to the Yank SS3600 (w/billet front cover), even though I was very happy with how the TCI performed. The Yank flashed about 500 rpm higher off the line, but otherwise the two converters felt identical.
I had a TCI SF3000 for three years/24k miles and many trips to the track, and it performed flawlessly. The serious flaw with these converters is that TCI uses the stock 4 cyl converter front cover with its clutch. There's no way that clutch can handle LS1 power over the long haul. Especially if PWM is enabled, that clutch will get chewed up and spit itself out throughout the transmission, creating a huge disaster.
That's why I switched to the Yank SS3600 (w/billet front cover), even though I was very happy with how the TCI performed. The Yank flashed about 500 rpm higher off the line, but otherwise the two converters felt identical.
Im new to the 4l60e. Its for a c5 transaxle the car rides smoother but the t56 stuff was way easier to work on and a stronger trans.
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I am so tired of this regurgitated crap TCI is not garbage my last SSF 3600 lasted for 7 years of drag strip and street abuse and the only reason I need to send it in and get it redone is because a bearing in my front planetary failed and sent crap through the trans on probably the about 1 millionth bajillionth drag strip launch on that f****** converter I have a picture of it somewhere on here TCI converters are just fine most people that blew up a transmission with the TCI converter did so because they didn't have the transmission tuned for the smaller lock-up clutch, The real problem is finding a good 4L60E rebuilder and a good 4L60E tuner . I just hope that when I decide to get my TCI restalled it will be as consistent as it was the first time out of the box, for a bracket racer having a converter that's nice to drive at both ends of the track is a big plus and I really liked my TCI Y'all just have bad luck or you don't know how to put stuff together or be nice to it maybe I don't know
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Man thats terrible news this is my first auto i had two t56 cars a 98 and 95 camaro. This is for a c5 99 yank, The good fti, precision, circle d are upwards of 1000$ for these cars. My dads 2004 gto converter circle d was 400-500$. He had problems with it locking up at first but changed the fluid to clean fluid and started locking up after. How about the fti FTI Performance ESRL3082 FTI Performance ESR Series Torque Converters | Summit Racing These are the two tci i was looking at. This one says antiballoon plate but no lock up Amazon.com: TCI 242963 StreetFighter Converter for 700R4/4L60E/Corvette w/Anti-Balloon Plate: Automotive and this is the standard streetfighter. Amazon.com: TCI 243105 StreetFighter Lock-Up Converter for 700R4, 4L60E and Corvette: Automotive . What else do you have in mind or would work there is a hays converter and how about b&m holeshot? Now any idea how much power the stock converter can handle? I mean is the tci worse then the stock? Im rebuilding my torque tube on my 99 c5 and looking for a 9.5-10" converter. Im looking for a converter that could handle 450whp-500whp tops.
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I am so tired of this regurgitated crap TCI is not garbage my last SSF 3600 lasted for 7 years of drag strip and street abuse and the only reason I need to send it in and get it redone is because a bearing in my front planetary failed and sent crap through the trans on probably the about 1 millionth bajillionth drag strip launch on that f****** converter I have a picture of it somewhere on here TCI converters are just fine The real problem is finding a good 4L60E rebuilder and a good 4L60E tuner
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I am so tired of this regurgitated crap TCI is not garbage my last SSF 3600 lasted for 7 years of drag strip and street abuse and the only reason I need to send it in and get it redone is because a bearing in my front planetary failed and sent crap through the trans on probably the about 1 millionth bajillionth drag strip launch on that f****** converter I have a picture of it somewhere on here TCI converters are just fine most people that blew up a transmission with the TCI converter did so because they didn't have the transmission tuned for the smaller lock-up clutch, The real problem is finding a good 4L60E rebuilder and a good 4L60E tuner . I just hope that when I decide to get my TCI restalled it will be as consistent as it was the first time out of the box, for a bracket racer having a converter that's nice to drive at both ends of the track is a big plus and I really liked my TCI Y'all just have bad luck or you don't know how to put stuff together or be nice to it maybe I don't know
If you like 20% slip, poor coupling have at it.
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95maroZ28,
While I do not often see a TCI or B&M Torque-Converter just fail (unless over-powered, or other issues are present).
... and some of them may perform decently well.
HOWEVER, if I were to call Dalton at FTI Performance, and give him all of the pertinent information for your Vehicle...
The Torque-Converter that Dalton would send for your Vehicle, would perform significantly better in several ways.
What TruckDoug was hinting at...
Basically is that part of (and sometimes MOST of) the Torque-Converters parts were originally intended for a low HP 4-cylinder Engine.
LOL!
If your vehicle is something that you wish to make good investments towards...
DO NOT go cheap on the Torque-Converter!!!
You would see a Night vs Day difference between a "Super Street Fighter" (like StockA4 has) and the FTI Torque-Converter!
Also if you are ever making some decent HP, the FTI Unit won't fail on you like the "Super Street Fighter" would.
While I do not often see a TCI or B&M Torque-Converter just fail (unless over-powered, or other issues are present).
... and some of them may perform decently well.
HOWEVER, if I were to call Dalton at FTI Performance, and give him all of the pertinent information for your Vehicle...
The Torque-Converter that Dalton would send for your Vehicle, would perform significantly better in several ways.
What TruckDoug was hinting at...
Basically is that part of (and sometimes MOST of) the Torque-Converters parts were originally intended for a low HP 4-cylinder Engine.
LOL!
If your vehicle is something that you wish to make good investments towards...
DO NOT go cheap on the Torque-Converter!!!
You would see a Night vs Day difference between a "Super Street Fighter" (like StockA4 has) and the FTI Torque-Converter!
Also if you are ever making some decent HP, the FTI Unit won't fail on you like the "Super Street Fighter" would.
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That cheep converter was originally for a smaller engine lol that's why it works so well! Just because everyone else spends the big bucks doesn't mean you can't make it happen with budget stuff
That cheep converter was originally for a smaller engine lol that's why it works so well! Just because everyone else spends the big bucks doesn't mean you can't make it happen with budget stuff
Man thats terrible news this is my first auto i had two t56 cars a 98 and 95 camaro. This is for a c5 99 yank, The good fti, precision, circle d are upwards of 1000$ for these cars. My dads 2004 gto converter circle d was 400-500$. He had problems with it locking up at first but changed the fluid to clean fluid and started locking up after. How about the fti FTI Performance ESRL3082 FTI Performance ESR Series Torque Converters | Summit Racing These are the two tci i was looking at. This one says antiballoon plate but no lock up Amazon.com: TCI 242963 StreetFighter Converter for 700R4/4L60E/Corvette w/Anti-Balloon Plate: Automotive and this is the standard streetfighter. Amazon.com: TCI 243105 StreetFighter Lock-Up Converter for 700R4, 4L60E and Corvette: Automotive . What else do you have in mind or would work there is a hays converter and how about b&m holeshot? Now any idea how much power the stock converter can handle? I mean is the tci worse then the stock? Im rebuilding my torque tube on my 99 c5 and looking for a 9.5-10" converter. Im looking for a converter that could handle 450whp-500whp tops.
The converters SOLE purpose is to take whatever output your motor is making and transfer it to the transmission. Because of that it can make a world of difference between the car feeling great to drive/race or leaving you wanting more, so choose wisely.
-Dalton
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That cheep converter was originally for a smaller engine lol that's why it works so well! Just because everyone else spends the big bucks doesn't mean you can't make it happen with budget stuff
That cheep converter was originally for a smaller engine lol that's why it works so well! Just because everyone else spends the big bucks doesn't mean you can't make it happen with budget stuff
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I don't doubt it nor would I call ya a liar but I have seen them with 15+ % slip and very poor coupling.....