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Old Apr 19, 2023 | 02:18 PM
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have flash my ecm tahoe 2001 , engine runs fine but the transmission 4L60E shift only up by very high rpm or stay in gear , what is wrong , have change gear ratio and tyre high ,still the same , mechanical gears work fine L3 L2 L1 , cables looking good from the trans
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Old Apr 19, 2023 | 05:33 PM
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Does your speedometer work ?
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Old Apr 19, 2023 | 06:23 PM
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Did it shift properly before you flashed your ECM with the new tune?
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Old Apr 20, 2023 | 12:58 AM
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Post your tune maybe someone can look and see anything is out of wack...
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A 4L60e only shifts when instructed by the PCM; it cannot delay the shift due to RPM or anything else.
So this is definitely a problem with either the PCM reading the vehicles speed incorrectly (via the VSS) or the tune being set that way.
This is why Frank asked if the speedometer was reading incorrectly. If the speedometer reads 10 mph when you are driving 50 mph we know where to start looking. The tune does convert VSS signals into MPH for the speedometer and trans shifting.

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Old Apr 21, 2023 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by mrvedit
A 4L60e only shifts when instructed by the PCM; it cannot delay the shift due to RPM or anything else.
So this is definitely a problem with either the PCM reading the vehicles speed incorrectly (via the VSS) or the tune being set that way.
This is why Frank asked if the speedometer was reading incorrectly. If the speedometer reads 10 mph when you are driving 50 mph we know where to start looking. The tune does convert VSS signals into MPH for the speedometer and trans shifting.
I am new with this , also the forum , but will learn it all
I hope give good response , the engine is put in ford f100 1956 , I also learning with hp tuners , I see now in the scanner screen when I drive with the laptop on the cable , no speed , it stays zero , TPS give good value , gears range switch good value , vcc sensor is wired to 20 and 21 on red but I see no wire to 50 on red , this must be dark green/white stripe 817 ,
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Old Apr 21, 2023 | 12:51 PM
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Yes with no speed sensor signal it will not shift or will but at very high rpm. You can set up to shift by RPM and TPS but this is not the most desirable set up.
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Old Apr 21, 2023 | 01:33 PM
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OK , thanks , go check first the wiring , when I pull out the vcc sensor and let it wired , can I check it then when I move a magnet up and down it , can I see that then on the screen in hp tuners , think must see then the speed goes up
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OK , thanks , go check first the wiring , when I pull out the vcc sensor and let it wired , can I check it then when I move a magnet up and down it , can I see that then on the screen in hp tuners , think must see then the speed goes up
You are clearly on the right path now. The VSS probably creates 4+ pulses per second for even 1 mph. So you'll need fast hands to get any reading in HP Tuners. The 4L60e/4L80e have an output shaft with a "gear" of about 24(?) teeth under the VSS. What kind of trans do you have in your custom car?
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Old Apr 22, 2023 | 01:15 AM
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okay , have 4l60e trans , go try it , can make a part for in the drillingmachine ,
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Originally Posted by Maus
okay , have 4l60e trans , go try it , can make a part for in the drillingmachine ,
thanks 👍
I'm confused. Why and what kind of part are you making?
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Old Apr 22, 2023 | 01:34 PM
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My englisch is not so good , I am from the netherlands , but try to do it good .
I mean , with the hand is not fast enough like you say , when I take a old gearwheel , and put it in a drilling machine , and let turn around by the sensor , looks me the same
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Actually the 4L60E 2wd uses a 40 tooth reluctor ring that's pressed onto the output shaft.
Here is a section from the GM Technician guide for the VSS
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VSS TFT data.pdf (1.21 MB, 249 views)
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Old Apr 22, 2023 | 02:38 PM
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Thanks , go to try it ,
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Old Apr 24, 2023 | 04:46 AM
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have the speedometer working now , purple/white wire from vcc sensor was bad , still not shifting up



next question , what is the difference between the throttle position sensor and the other with (SAE) writing by ,
only one give value when step one the gas , the other stays at zero
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have the speedometer working now , purple/white wire from vcc sensor was bad , still not shifting up
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next question , what is the difference between the throttle position sensor and the other with (SAE) writing by ,
only one give value when step one the gas , the other stays at zero
To confirm, you have seen or logged "Vehicle Speed" in HP Tuners when the car is moving? You pictures don't show any speed.

While I have used HP Tuners a lot, I have also noticed that some of the "Thottle position" values stay at Zero while "Throttle Position SAE" does change. I don't know, you could ask on their forum, but I simply never examine or log these unused values (called PIDs).

Looking at you pics, I though your idle Advance is very low at 8 degrees and might lead to surging if the next cell value is much higher. Also, at just 1450 RPM, your advance of 40.5 degrees is very high; might not hurt, just strangely high.

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Old Apr 24, 2023 | 01:46 PM
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the speed is zero becauae car is standing in park , speedometer works , the pics are to see for all the values , tps stays at zero , tps sae give a value , I look futher
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Wonder if he ever solved this , I hate when people never follow up.
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Wonder if he ever solved this , I hate when people never follow up.
I was just in Germany last week. Maybe I should have gone to see him and twisted his arm to give us a followup. Hmmm, he might have forced me to fix it.
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Originally Posted by mrvedit
i was just in germany last week. Maybe i should have gone to see him and twisted his arm to give us a followup. Hmmm, he might have forced me to fix it.
lol lol
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