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Old Feb 12, 2025 | 11:28 AM
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I haven't done Frank's over run mod yet. From the pics that I have seen, it looks like you cut the gasket wrong. I would not think that the check ball in this location would be used. If I'm wrong here hopefully Frank will correct me.

There are two check ***** on the case side one at the very back of the case that is encapsulated, and one for the 4th gear accumulator. If you have blocked the 4th gear accumulator this, check ball can be omitted. The check ball at the back of the case can also be omitted.
I can/should take the two check ***** out of the case?
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Old Feb 12, 2025 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by FranksCustomTrans
It is cut right, you can keep or remove ball makes no difference
Frank you mean just remove the ball right there in the bathtub? Or that one plus the two in the case?
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Old Feb 12, 2025 | 03:52 PM
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You leave out the bathtub ball. You can either leave in the overun ball or not does not matter , I generally leave it in
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Old Feb 12, 2025 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Cherrybomb
Frank you mean just remove the ball right there in the bathtub? Or that one plus the two in the case?
thanks!
I am a bit confused but I think you are asking

In VB LEAVE OUT THE BATHTUB BALL AND IF YOU LIKE THE OVERUN BALL NEXT TO IT , DOES NOT REALLY MATTER WITH IT.
As for case as long as you have blocked the 4th acum then no reason to a ball there.
Other ***** in case low/rev ball at back of case you can remove or leave, removing might make a more aggressive rev apply

Of course the ball in the case near servo inside capsul must be there.

Hope I covered all .

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Old Feb 12, 2025 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by FranksCustomTrans
I am a bit confused but I think you are asking

In VB LEAVE OUT THE BATHTUB BALL AND IF YOU LIKE THE OVERUN BALL NEXT TO IT , DOES NOT REALLY MATTER WITH IT.
As for case as long as you have blocked the 4th acum then no reason to a ball there.
Other ***** in case low/rev ball at back of case you can remove or leave, removing might make a more aggressive rev apply

Of course the ball in the case near servo inside capsul must be there.

Hope I covered all .

Frank
yessir all good, thank you very much. I will pull the VB bathtub checkball and the CASE 4th accumulator. Leave the rest.

thank you!
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Old Feb 25, 2025 | 12:14 PM
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Well guys i messed up..
i got a chance to finish this up, finally, and i couldnt get the pump to seat all the way back in.
I must have forced it too much (i was tightening down the bolts with a rachet) and it just didn’t seem tight. I kept taking it back off and checking things, but in reality i don’t really know what to look for. The reverse drum seemed like it was low enough, so i did it a final time and there was a low kinda quiet pop that i got.
At that point the input shaft would only turn one direction. It would lock going the other way. So i ended up pulling the valvebody and everything back off, took out the input drum and removed the 3-4 clutches.
They must not have been lined up, because i bent the little splines.I gues when i remived the pump I pulled the whole assembly out and twisted it. So now i need a new 3-4 clutchpack, which i guess is ok, im sure an upgrade wouldnt hurt.

Any recommendations for a good one, with the modifications I have already done? BTT, this is a pretty decent turbo HP rig, about 5000lbs.

Also, any point in upgrading to a wider band for my application? For that I would have to buy a new drum correct? Is that upgraded needed? Does that mean every time you replace a band, even stock size, that the drum is to be replaced?
I have read mixed results on leaving out the 3/4 release springs/holders, as well as drilling the 3/4 steels for oil lube holes. I could do that at work (drill and chamfer) is that something good to do/upgrade? Do that with my old steels or new ones?


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Old Feb 25, 2025 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Cherrybomb
Well guys i messed up..
i got a chance to finish this up, finally, and i couldnt get the pump to seat all the way back in.
I must have forced it too much (i was tightening down the bolts with a rachet) and it just didn’t seem tight. I kept taking it back off and checking things, but in reality i don’t really know what to look for. The reverse drum seemed like it was low enough, so i did it a final time and there was a low kinda quiet pop that i got.
At that point the input shaft would only turn one direction. It would lock going the other way. So i ended up pulling the valvebody and everything back off, took out the input drum and removed the 3-4 clutches.
They must not have been lined up, because i bent the little splines. So now i need a new 3-4 clutchpack, which i guess is ok, im sure an upgrade wouldnt hurt.

Any recommendations for a good one, with the modifications I have already done? BTT, this is a pretty decent turbo HP rig, about 5000lbs.

Also, any point in upgrading to a wider band for my application? For that I would have to buy a new drum correct? Is that upgraded needed? Does that mean every time you replace a band, even stock size, that the drum is to be replaced?
I have read mixed results on leaving out the 3/4 release springs/holders, as well as drilling the 3/4 steels for oil lube holes. I could do that at work (drill and chamfer) is that something good to do/upgrade? Do that with my old steels or new ones?

thanks guys
OOPS! I can put you together one of my 3-4 sets just message me if you like and wide band is great but make sure you have a totally flat or new reverse drum
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Old Feb 25, 2025 | 01:06 PM
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OOPS! I can put you together one of my 3-4 sets just message me if you like and wide band is great but make sure you have a totally flat or new reverse drum
sure Frank, i’ll take ya up on that 3-4 pack…do you think I should spend the money doing the drum/band upgrade?
i dont realy have a way to check it other than put a straight edge across it and use feeler gauges or plastigage? We have a lathe at work in maintenance but it is not hooked up for use yet.
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use a straight edge and yea its a great upgrade IMO
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