My thoughts on switching converters
The other day I had my TP4000E swapped out for a TP4400. After driving around for a little bit I could kick myself for not getting the 4400 in the 1st place. The motor revs a lot faster and you can tell that it will perform better, but there is barely no difference in looseness at all.
I bring this to your guys attention because I've noticed a trend over the past month or so on the "other" board of people talking about getting 4000 stall converters. My advise to these people is don't waste your time or money. Just go straight for the 4400. A noticeable difference in performance without a noticeable difference in streetability. If you think you can handle a 4000 stall then a 4400 will be no problem.
But, after reading this if you feel that you are still not manly enough to step up to the 4400, well then I have my TP4000E up for sale. <img src="images/icons/wink.gif" border="0"> <img src="images/icons/grin.gif" border="0">
later,
Steve
I bring this to your guys attention because I've noticed a trend over the past month or so on the "other" board of people talking about getting 4000 stall converters. My advise to these people is don't waste your time or money. Just go straight for the 4400. A noticeable difference in performance without a noticeable difference in streetability. If you think you can handle a 4000 stall then a 4400 will be no problem.
But, after reading this if you feel that you are still not manly enough to step up to the 4400, well then I have my TP4000E up for sale. <img src="images/icons/wink.gif" border="0"> <img src="images/icons/grin.gif" border="0">
later,
Steve
I agree. I've driven both and the difference in looseness is minimal. If you're worried about looseness but still want the killer launch, the ST 4000 is the way to go.
I think almost everyone wishes they had gone with more stall originally, I know I do! My Vig 2800 is totally fine. A few months back I drove Joe Prince's SS, he has a Vig 3600, I liked it a lot. Joe's car was fine for city driving, and pulled like a monster from a slow roll....
These little 9' converters kick azz! They have a killer recovery time. You can spin, let off and get back in it nearly as fast as a clutch!
I agree also, I can't imagine liking anything better than I like my tp4400. I originally ran a vig 2800 and had good results but this thing is in a whole new league and as I have said time and again, its honestly not that loose especailly with a 3.73 gear or lower.
[quote]"...The other day I had my TP4000E swapped out for a TP4400. After driving around for a little bit I could kick myself for not getting the 4400 in the 1st place. The motor revs a lot faster and you can tell that it will perform better, but there is barely no difference in looseness at all..."
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Remember Kids, these are NOT real daily-driver cars...
4400rpm from every stop sign and red light... OH! THE HUMANITY!!!
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Remember Kids, these are NOT real daily-driver cars...
4400rpm from every stop sign and red light... OH! THE HUMANITY!!!
[quote]Originally posted by TR:
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Remember Kids, these are NOT real daily-driver cars...
4400rpm from every stop sign and red light... OH! THE HUMANITY!!!</strong><hr></blockquote>
Well, hmmm... I drive the car daily and I don't think I'm in Fantasy Land, so upon further review I do believe it is a real daily driver car. <img src="images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
4400rpm from every stop light, hmmm.... once again you are correct. Maybe, my tach is off by 2000 rpms and I just don't know any better. <img src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> I could of sworn I was only doing 2500rpms in between lights. Go figure.
If you haven't driven a modern stall converter and I don't think you have, 4400rpm from a stop usually results in this <img src="graemlins/burnout.gif" border="0" alt="[Burnout]" />
later,
Steve
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Remember Kids, these are NOT real daily-driver cars...
4400rpm from every stop sign and red light... OH! THE HUMANITY!!!</strong><hr></blockquote>
Well, hmmm... I drive the car daily and I don't think I'm in Fantasy Land, so upon further review I do believe it is a real daily driver car. <img src="images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
4400rpm from every stop light, hmmm.... once again you are correct. Maybe, my tach is off by 2000 rpms and I just don't know any better. <img src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> I could of sworn I was only doing 2500rpms in between lights. Go figure.
If you haven't driven a modern stall converter and I don't think you have, 4400rpm from a stop usually results in this <img src="graemlins/burnout.gif" border="0" alt="[Burnout]" />
later,
Steve
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I had a MW 3200, then a PI3600 (4300), and now a Yank TP-E4400...
Car rolls around 2500... passes on the highway around 3000.
Just keep an eye on tranny temps. I like to keep the tranny temps below 225F. I typically drive around in 3rd around town. Otherwise I get too much slippage in OD.
Car rolls around 2500... passes on the highway around 3000.
Just keep an eye on tranny temps. I like to keep the tranny temps below 225F. I typically drive around in 3rd around town. Otherwise I get too much slippage in OD.
TR - mines a daily driver with the 4400.
PSJ - you need to get that lockup fixed!!! If nothing else, until you figure it out, why don't you do a manual switch?
PSJ - you need to get that lockup fixed!!! If nothing else, until you figure it out, why don't you do a manual switch?
[quote]Originally posted by Pro Stock John:
<strong>I like to keep the tranny temps below 225F. </strong><hr></blockquote>
<img src="images/icons/shocked.gif" border="0"> damn, John I've only surpassed 200 once and thats when I had my cooler off for about a week. With the cooler I rarely see above 195f.
later,
Steve
<strong>I like to keep the tranny temps below 225F. </strong><hr></blockquote>
<img src="images/icons/shocked.gif" border="0"> damn, John I've only surpassed 200 once and thats when I had my cooler off for about a week. With the cooler I rarely see above 195f.
later,
Steve
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I see 185-190F cruising around, I should be more specific. If I beat on the car I will see 205-210F on occasion, but it will quickly drop down. At the track it will go up during a run, but by the time I'm parking in the pits it will drop 20F.
I see 185-190F cruising around, I should be more specific. If I beat on the car I will see 205-210F on occasion, but it will quickly drop down. At the track it will go up during a run, but by the time I'm parking in the pits it will drop 20F.



