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Old 03-01-2005, 10:31 PM
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Default TCI vs. Yank 4400 results

Since so many people say that Yank converters are the best as far as efficiency, quality, and performance I thought I would give them a try. I had a TCI Super Street Fighter 4400 and compared it to a Yank PT 4400 hoping to pick up mph at the track and hp on the dyno. The results were not what everybody said they would be including Yank. As far as track times the Yank did not hit nowhere near as hard as the TCI and it showed in the 60'. TCI = 1.46-1.48 60' and Yank = 1.53-1.54 60's and the mph also went down with the Yank by 2 mph in the 1/8th. Track times were corrected to the same DA with both converters dead hooking on ET Drags. Finally the dyno results

Yank PT 4400 = Red
TCI 4400 = Blue



*disclaimer this is my own tested results. Results may vary*
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very interesting.

i like the fact that you only dyno that and run 11.0 . proves my point that dyno #'s don't mean much.
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Some good info there. Thanks for your work!

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Good info...
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Did you change your tuning? I notice the A/F ratio on the Yank runs is a bit richer than with the TCI.

Did you do a locked run? it would be nice to see how they compared to a locked baseline.
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Is it me or are both of those TQ. #'s low

I'm stock internal and run a Yank SS3800 and my TQ. #'s were 400+ unlocked through a Moser 12 w/ 3.73's
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unlocked spikes the dyno. it isnt a real figure for your torque output.

i find this very interesting since so many bash TCI simply because it is a cheaper product.
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I found my Yank TP4400 was very ineffecient. I would pick up 4mph from locking the converter. It also flashed to 5000rpm on the dyno...

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whats the difference in price between these two?



basically youre getting the same power though i always thought yanks were the best out there.
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Great data. Thanks for providing the results to the forum.

I had very similar performance results. My TCI out performed my Yank hands down.


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Thanks for the comparison.

You said the yank didnt hit as hard.
Do they have the same STR?
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Nice comparison, wonder if TCI does restalls like to get mine restalled to 4400
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When my Yank gives up I think I will try a TCI. Will TCI restall/rebuild a Yank converter? Thanks for providing your results.
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Bain, also just curious how much does your car weigh? those are some amazing times for both stock internals and cam only. Which cam do you run?
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bains car weighes 3400 with him in it. and yank said that they were the same str. tci says its a 2.8, and the yank was a 2.5. but yank said their tests of a tci was only a 2.2.

every thing is fine with bains car. no retune. and yes it was a 50 minute drive to the track. and i have rode in bains car many times....maybe too many times. ahaha. and the tci would light the street tires up from a 55 punch. the yank would not even do it from a 40 punch. and those were on street tires...not nittos.
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How were you launching your YTP 4400?

I have that in my car and it did pretty well. I am positive I would not have gone as fast with any other converter.

I've cut 1.40's with a Yank 4400 stock internal, naturally aspirated..
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Maybe you would have cut a 1.35 60' with a TCI!

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My Yank wouldnt lock up for **** either.

I was disapointed to say the least.
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Good info. Just proves money isn't everything.

These converters, no matter who makes them, aren't that complex. There's not much in them. Most guys just use stock factory bits from V6's and strengthen them to handle to TQ of a V8, weld em up and "hey presto".

Now the problem for the more expensive manufacturers is that is works. A 9.5" converter will NEVER be as efficient as a 12" unit - its simple physics. However, for their size, the 9.5" units are quite efficient.

You do not need, nor should expect, to spend $700 for a converter that will achieve the same results as a unit costing half that. The only reason a converter should be more expensive is if the requirements stipulate higher HP than most modified street cars can deal out. You would expect that converter to be of higher standard due to custom fabrication of components.

So if your car is only dishing out 500HP at the crank, you dont need the extra heavy duty components that are designed for 900HP and up. Its horses for courses and explains why in this example they both performed comparably.
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These results have been my experience as well which is why I decided to sell TCI converters. I run a TCI 9" converter in my car.


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