Automatic Transmission Lost First Gear - Help!!!
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Automatic Transmission Lost First Gear - Help!!! My 2000 Trans AM lost first gear last night? Any suggestions on possible cause?
The car has 32,000 miles. I'm running a 3,000 stall, 3.42 gears, some bolt ons including a 100 dry shot NOS system (but I've only used 3 bottles in the last year) and everything has been fine. Last night when I pulled off the interstate and up to the stop sign I could feel the transmission was not in first as I pulled away from the light. I pulled over and tried to start again and the same thing. I pulled the shifter manually back into first and tried again, but still the transmission is starting out in second gear. No unusual noises, burning smells, fluid is full. Filter and fluid was changed within 6,000 miles. When I first got my Predator tuner, I did move the shift points up a couple hundred RPM and increased the shift firmness a little but don't remember exactly how much.
Any suggestions appreciated before I reluctantly take the car into a transmission shop.
If they tell me I need a complete rebuild, any suggestions on upgrading the transmission to better handle the stall, ocassional burn out?
Thanks
The car has 32,000 miles. I'm running a 3,000 stall, 3.42 gears, some bolt ons including a 100 dry shot NOS system (but I've only used 3 bottles in the last year) and everything has been fine. Last night when I pulled off the interstate and up to the stop sign I could feel the transmission was not in first as I pulled away from the light. I pulled over and tried to start again and the same thing. I pulled the shifter manually back into first and tried again, but still the transmission is starting out in second gear. No unusual noises, burning smells, fluid is full. Filter and fluid was changed within 6,000 miles. When I first got my Predator tuner, I did move the shift points up a couple hundred RPM and increased the shift firmness a little but don't remember exactly how much.
Any suggestions appreciated before I reluctantly take the car into a transmission shop.
If they tell me I need a complete rebuild, any suggestions on upgrading the transmission to better handle the stall, ocassional burn out?
Thanks
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No one ever replyed to this message, but it appears I fixed the problem. Several people on another board suggested I replace the shift solenoids (2) which I did. They cost $18 each, plus the pan gasket, filter and fluid.
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Originally Posted by flyer21
No one ever replyed to this message, but it appears I fixed the problem. Several people on another board suggested I replace the shift solenoids (2) which I did. They cost $18 each, plus the pan gasket, filter and fluid.
I'm glad it all worked out.
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Well the problem is back. Still occasionally starts in second gear? No check engine light, no codes read with my Predator programmer, no pending codes read with a Snap-On scanner. Have not had the car hooked up to a Snap-On scanner when it is actually starting in second gear because I can't get it to act up long enough for me to get it to a shop to have it scanned. It’s not going into limp mode, because it’s shifting into 4th gear and the TC is locking up. It just won’t go into first when it acts up. When I turn the car off for a while (the time varies) it works fine for a while, and that time and the conditions that cause it to malfunction vary too. I can see no particular pattern. I've read several posts from people who simply threw up their hands and gave up chasing the ghost and either sold the car, installed a complete new transmission or learned to live with problem until it finally quit altogether. I'm going to follow thru until I find out exactly what is causing the problem and fix it. At this point installing a complete new transmission would be crazy and I love this ride, so it has to be fixed. ALL suggestions appreciated.
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Originally Posted by flyer21
Well the problem is back. Still occasionally starts in second gear? No check engine light, no codes read with my Predator programmer, no pending codes read with a Snap-On scanner. Have not had the car hooked up to a Snap-On scanner when it is actually starting in second gear because I can't get it to act up long enough for me to get it to a shop to have it scanned. It’s not going into limp mode, because it’s shifting into 4th gear and the TC is locking up. It just won’t go into first when it acts up. When I turn the car off for a while (the time varies) it works fine for a while, and that time and the conditions that cause it to malfunction vary too. I can see no particular pattern. I've read several posts from people who simply threw up their hands and gave up chasing the ghost and either sold the car, installed a complete new transmission or learned to live with problem until it finally quit altogether. I'm going to follow thru until I find out exactly what is causing the problem and fix it. At this point installing a complete new transmission would be crazy and I love this ride, so it has to be fixed. ALL suggestions appreciated.
Something overheats - you get the problem. The car stands and cools down for a bit - theres no problem.
At this point, my only suggestion would be to either have your tranny rebuilt by a shop you trust or get a brand new tranny from FLP or Rossler, if you decide you want to stick with the 4l60e
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Before I go that route how about this? The next time this happens I'm going to again confirm the transmission isn't going into limp mode. If I have 4th gear and the TC is locking up, which I believe it is, then it's a first gear problem. Next I'm going to check the terminals at the transmission plug to confirm A and B terminals are grounded and terminal E is getting power. From what I'm reading this is the computer commnad for first gear. If not, this would indicate a computer problem which should throw a code, right? But there are no codes. Assuming the solenoids are energized. The problem is definetely in the transmission and I will then attempt to identify which component is breaking down. It's been suggested there may be trash in the solenoid passage way. But solenoid A is also the 3-4 shift solenoid and the beleive the 3-4 shift is working fine. Although a brand new transmission can fail, this car only has 32K on it and it has not been drive that hard. It should last longer than this. Appreciate the tip on FLP. I have talked to them and they sound like a good outfit. Hope I don't need them yet. Any other transmission experts please join in. Appreciate any and all suggestions.
Last edited by flyer21; May 20, 2005 at 04:13 PM.
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