Loose Converters & N20
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Loose Converters & N20 Or in other words... Paging Patrick G <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
I'm thinking about going unNaturally aspirated..
I'm thinking a TP-4000E or maybe a PY-4000E, what's your thoughts?
With my current 3.73 12 bolt and Pro Yank tranny.. figure all I need now is a Kit and the right converter <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
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I'm thinking about going unNaturally aspirated..
I'm thinking a TP-4000E or maybe a PY-4000E, what's your thoughts?
With my current 3.73 12 bolt and Pro Yank tranny.. figure all I need now is a Kit and the right converter <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
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Re: Loose Converters & N20 Hey John, I have met you at one of the cars shows this fall, nice car and very quick. I have just installed a YST3500 on my car today, and I was thinking about going N20 down the road also. I will probably wait and see how much this last mod will net me at the track, and then decide from there.
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Re: Loose Converters & N20 John, if you are going for a dedicated nitrous set-up, you don't want to get a Pro Thruster converter, they're much too loose to harness the abundant torque nitrous gives to a motor. You really need a larger diameter converter like the Pro Yank 3600 Extreme. This converter will stall over 4000 on the gas and will give you 3-4 more mph in the traps when running a good size shot (175-200) compared to a Pro Thruster.
If you are going 50% nitrous, 50% N/A, then you want a 9" converter with a different stator. A Yank Super Thruster 3500 could be upgraded to Pro Yank Extreme specifications (Kevlar Posi-Lock-up Clutch, 6 bolt mounting lugs, Heavy Duty one-way clutch and sprag). This would be a excellent compromise to running well on motor and on the gas. The ST 3500 would ET better on motor than the Pro Yank 3600E, but it would fall behind on nitrous.
It all depends on how serious you are about running the big numbers on nitrous. If I decide to start getting serious about running the gas, I may wind up getting another Pro Yank 3600 E, like I had in my '00 WS6...man that converter ROCKED on nitrous! It also rocks behind a 422! <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
If you are going 50% nitrous, 50% N/A, then you want a 9" converter with a different stator. A Yank Super Thruster 3500 could be upgraded to Pro Yank Extreme specifications (Kevlar Posi-Lock-up Clutch, 6 bolt mounting lugs, Heavy Duty one-way clutch and sprag). This would be a excellent compromise to running well on motor and on the gas. The ST 3500 would ET better on motor than the Pro Yank 3600E, but it would fall behind on nitrous.
It all depends on how serious you are about running the big numbers on nitrous. If I decide to start getting serious about running the gas, I may wind up getting another Pro Yank 3600 E, like I had in my '00 WS6...man that converter ROCKED on nitrous! It also rocks behind a 422! <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
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Re: Loose Converters & N20 John, those dang compromises get ya everytime dont they? <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
It's fairly to do one or the other well... but to excell in both (N/A and U N/A)is not so easy.
Usually you have to give up one to get the other and what happens is neither delivers "STELLAR" performance. Good yes... but not "STELLAR".
There is no "perfect compromise". (IMO)
It's fairly to do one or the other well... but to excell in both (N/A and U N/A)is not so easy.
Usually you have to give up one to get the other and what happens is neither delivers "STELLAR" performance. Good yes... but not "STELLAR".
There is no "perfect compromise". (IMO)
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Re: Loose Converters & N20 Yeah, it's too much fun running this fast on the motor (and faster once I figure out this TM $hit)... but would be cool to hit some mid tens on the spray. Still not sre if that's the route I'm gonna shoot for.
Right now the plan is to try some computer tuning, then maybe go back too a TP-4400 or something else if my goals change. The UT-4600 really hasn't had a chance to work yet because of all the tuning issues... I do think is a little too big, but I know that it has more in it, I figure a 11.60 easy at my current weight (3350).
Right now the plan is to try some computer tuning, then maybe go back too a TP-4400 or something else if my goals change. The UT-4600 really hasn't had a chance to work yet because of all the tuning issues... I do think is a little too big, but I know that it has more in it, I figure a 11.60 easy at my current weight (3350).
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Re: Loose Converters & N20 I'm going through the same dilema now.
I recently tried a 100 wet shot but only managed a 11.8 @ 115. <img src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" border="0">
But I sure love this verter when I run NA. <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
I recently tried a 100 wet shot but only managed a 11.8 @ 115. <img src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" border="0">
But I sure love this verter when I run NA. <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
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Re: Loose Converters & N20 I agree with Patrick John.
My Extreme 4400 is just way to big for the 150 shot. As you can see I run 11.5's@116 NA but only run 10.70@125 on the nitrous <img src="gr_sad.gif" border="0">
I am going to send it back when I get back home and get that stall moved back to about 3600-3800 for the juice.
My Extreme 4400 is just way to big for the 150 shot. As you can see I run 11.5's@116 NA but only run 10.70@125 on the nitrous <img src="gr_sad.gif" border="0">
I am going to send it back when I get back home and get that stall moved back to about 3600-3800 for the juice.
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Re: Loose Converters & N20 Yeah, with performance enhancements it always seems to be a tradeoff. I am upgrading to a ST 3200 w 2.5 str and 3.42 gears, to break into the 11's with stock internals. <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> Hopefully it shouldn't be a problem now that I have my car running back to normal. My question is how do you guys think this combination will be with the spray, as I plan to go with a 100-150 shot to get into low 11's high 10's? <img src="graemlins/burnout.gif" border="0" alt="[Burnout]" /> Well that's my goal, but who knows. Yeah I AM trying to get the best of both worlds.
Thanks,
Mike
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Thanks,
Mike
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