PI3200, ST3500, or ST3800 ?
Thread Starter
On The Tree
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 103
Likes: 0
From: Pemberton N.J.
PI3200, ST3500, or ST3800 ? Have a '00 Camaro SS #5642, with all the basic free mods, stock 3.23's, MAF ends, DF Lid, Holley Filter, Hypertech PPIII, (100% firmness, Fans, & shift points only) 160 T-Stat, stock converter. Has anyone tried the ST 3800 on a stock C/H car? This is a daily driver but would like better track performance without all the lock up SES code crap. Are many '00 cars having converter problems? Early/late year make a difference? I DO NOT want a 4000 + converter!! Just a good, doin it once, compromise
[ January 30, 2002: Message edited by: FaSS Blac ]</p>
[ January 30, 2002: Message edited by: FaSS Blac ]</p>
Speed freak
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 1,477
Likes: 0
From: Tulsa, OK
Re: PI3200, ST3500, or ST3800 ? I'd go with the ST3500 or ST3800. Both are great street/strip converters <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
btw...I got the ST3500...I love it <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
btw...I got the ST3500...I love it <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
Thread Starter
On The Tree
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 103
Likes: 0
From: Pemberton N.J.
Re: PI3200, ST3500, or ST3800 ? [quote]Originally posted by DevilBird:
<strong>I'd go with the ST3500 or ST3800. Both are great street/strip converters <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
btw...I got the ST3500...I love it <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> </strong><hr></blockquote>That's the one I'm leaning toward. I met a kid at ATCO on Sunday with a WS6 that said his trans self destructed with a ST3500 and two trans coolers?!! Why two? Tried to get more info but he seemed kind of vague in his answers. Don't think it was a converter problem; think something else may have been wrong already. Still curious about the ST3800 though. Thanx.
<strong>I'd go with the ST3500 or ST3800. Both are great street/strip converters <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
btw...I got the ST3500...I love it <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> </strong><hr></blockquote>That's the one I'm leaning toward. I met a kid at ATCO on Sunday with a WS6 that said his trans self destructed with a ST3500 and two trans coolers?!! Why two? Tried to get more info but he seemed kind of vague in his answers. Don't think it was a converter problem; think something else may have been wrong already. Still curious about the ST3800 though. Thanx.
Re: PI3200, ST3500, or ST3800 ? If I were you I'd set the shift firmness back to stock. At WOT it has 100% line pressure already. All your doing is adding that stress throughout your entire driving routine.
I'd vote for the ST3800. I have the YTP4500 and I have not had any converter related problems
I'll see you at Atco this year. I'll be the Blue Z that looks like this <img src="graemlins/camaro.gif" border="0" alt="[Chevrolet]" /> <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
<img src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />
[ January 30, 2002: Message edited by: Bob2of3 ]</p>
I'd vote for the ST3800. I have the YTP4500 and I have not had any converter related problems
I'll see you at Atco this year. I'll be the Blue Z that looks like this <img src="graemlins/camaro.gif" border="0" alt="[Chevrolet]" /> <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
<img src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />
[ January 30, 2002: Message edited by: Bob2of3 ]</p>
Thread Starter
On The Tree
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 103
Likes: 0
From: Pemberton N.J.
Re: PI3200, ST3500, or ST3800 ? [quote]Originally posted by Bob2of3:
<strong>If I were you I'd set the shift firmness back to stock. At WOT it has 100% line pressure already. All your doing is adding that stress throughout your entire driving routine.
I'd vote for the ST3800. I have the YTP4500 and I have not had any converter related problems
I'll see you at Atco this year. I'll be the Blue Z that looks like this <img src="graemlins/camaro.gif" border="0" alt="[Chevrolet]" /> <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
<img src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />
[ January 30, 2002: Message edited by: Bob2of3 ]</strong><hr></blockquote>The so called 100% firmness feels more like a gear change lag reducer than firmness. Was very disappointed with the stock "SUV" shifts. You can tell that it reduces the lag time between gears. I've had a "Real" shift kit in a worked 445 ci six-pack '70 Cuda that shifted hard enough to BARK some 295/50R-15 BFG's from 2nd to 3rd shift, (at 100, yes, 100 mph!!!) that you would have a 5 Tylenol headache by the end of the day. This is not firmness, it's speed. Thanx.
<strong>If I were you I'd set the shift firmness back to stock. At WOT it has 100% line pressure already. All your doing is adding that stress throughout your entire driving routine.
I'd vote for the ST3800. I have the YTP4500 and I have not had any converter related problems
I'll see you at Atco this year. I'll be the Blue Z that looks like this <img src="graemlins/camaro.gif" border="0" alt="[Chevrolet]" /> <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
<img src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />
[ January 30, 2002: Message edited by: Bob2of3 ]</strong><hr></blockquote>The so called 100% firmness feels more like a gear change lag reducer than firmness. Was very disappointed with the stock "SUV" shifts. You can tell that it reduces the lag time between gears. I've had a "Real" shift kit in a worked 445 ci six-pack '70 Cuda that shifted hard enough to BARK some 295/50R-15 BFG's from 2nd to 3rd shift, (at 100, yes, 100 mph!!!) that you would have a 5 Tylenol headache by the end of the day. This is not firmness, it's speed. Thanx.
Thread Starter
On The Tree
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 103
Likes: 0
From: Pemberton N.J.
Re: PI3200, ST3500, or ST3800 ? [quote]Originally posted by Bob2of3:
<strong>If I were you I'd set the shift firmness back to stock. At WOT it has 100% line pressure already. All your doing is adding that stress throughout your entire driving routine.
I'd vote for the ST3800. I have the YTP4500 and I have not had any converter related problems
I'll see you at Atco this year. I'll be the Blue Z that looks like this <img src="graemlins/camaro.gif" border="0" alt="[Chevrolet]" /> <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
<img src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />
[ January 30, 2002: Message edited by: Bob2of3 ]</strong><hr></blockquote>BTW, I have a co-worker that has a PT4400 that's a monster at the track, (I think she turned a 1.57" 60 first time out) but said it's a bit much on the street. Highest I'd possibly go to is a ST3800. I'm figuring almost a .10 difference between the ST3500 to the ST3800?
<img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0"> <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
<strong>If I were you I'd set the shift firmness back to stock. At WOT it has 100% line pressure already. All your doing is adding that stress throughout your entire driving routine.
I'd vote for the ST3800. I have the YTP4500 and I have not had any converter related problems
I'll see you at Atco this year. I'll be the Blue Z that looks like this <img src="graemlins/camaro.gif" border="0" alt="[Chevrolet]" /> <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
<img src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />
[ January 30, 2002: Message edited by: Bob2of3 ]</strong><hr></blockquote>BTW, I have a co-worker that has a PT4400 that's a monster at the track, (I think she turned a 1.57" 60 first time out) but said it's a bit much on the street. Highest I'd possibly go to is a ST3800. I'm figuring almost a .10 difference between the ST3500 to the ST3800?
<img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0"> <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
Re: PI3200, ST3500, or ST3800 ? Another one to consider is the PY3400E. I had the ST3500 and was great, but the PY is more streetable for daily driving IMO, but hits harder, needing stickies at the track. I wouldn't count out the PI3200 either, my buddy has the PI2800, and is cutting mid 1.6's with his stock 3.23 gears and is also very streetable.. I think most of the problems with the SES codes have been on the 01' and 02' years.
Trending Topics
LS1 Tech Stories
The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time
Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine
Verdad Gallardo
7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built
Verdad Gallardo
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin
Verdad Gallardo
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them
Pouria Savadkouei
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph
Verdad Gallardo
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked
Pouria Savadkouei
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP
Verdad Gallardo
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes
Verdad Gallardo
Re: PI3200, ST3500, or ST3800 ? PI 3200 is very streetable and will shread tire on the drop of a dime or hook like a mad b!tch with ET Streets or Drags at the track. My best 60ft. is in the sig.
Thread Starter
On The Tree
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 103
Likes: 0
From: Pemberton N.J.
Re: PI3200, ST3500, or ST3800 ? [quote]Originally posted by StreetStalkerZ:
<strong>PI 3200 is very streetable and will shread tire on the drop of a dime or hook like a mad b!tch with ET Streets or Drags at the track. My best 60ft. is in the sig.</strong><hr></blockquote>Thanx for all the input guys. Still undecided but have a couple of ideas now.
<img src="gr_tounge.gif" border="0">
<strong>PI 3200 is very streetable and will shread tire on the drop of a dime or hook like a mad b!tch with ET Streets or Drags at the track. My best 60ft. is in the sig.</strong><hr></blockquote>Thanx for all the input guys. Still undecided but have a couple of ideas now.
<img src="gr_tounge.gif" border="0">
Re: PI3200, ST3500, or ST3800 ? I'm a big Vig 3200 fan as well. It's a GREAT street/strip converter, and it's not too loose by any means. I'm gonna see what it's good for in the 60' with 3.73's, and it should be solidly in the 11's. I guess we'll see Saturday. <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
__________________
Re: PI3200, ST3500, or ST3800 ? I wanted a ST3500 for 6 months, but decided on the PI 3200 because of the problems guys were having with '01's and SES codes.
I love it. It's almost too streetable... <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> I was expecting a lot less drivability since it is my daily driver. But the thing is not much different than stock. Unless you mash the throttle. <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
I'm track-testing it this weekend.
I love it. It's almost too streetable... <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> I was expecting a lot less drivability since it is my daily driver. But the thing is not much different than stock. Unless you mash the throttle. <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
I'm track-testing it this weekend.
Re: PI3200, ST3500, or ST3800 ? Please post your results after you track test. I am very interested to see what happens with your 60' times. If I ever swap converters again, I think it's gonna be a Vig 3200. I havent yet to cut better than a 1.80 with ET Streets. What RPM is everyone launching at, maybe I haven't hit the sweet spot yet..
Re: PI3200, ST3500, or ST3800 ? Vig3200 here. Do get ocassional SES (P0300) when the car is idleing for awhile do to my low idle but that will be addressed soon.
Best 60' is a 1.77 on a 17" Nitto on my full weight SS with my 270lbs self in it. I LOVE this converter. <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
Best 60' is a 1.77 on a 17" Nitto on my full weight SS with my 270lbs self in it. I LOVE this converter. <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
