The Fuddle is in
09-12-2005, 12:19 AM
#1
TECH Addict
Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Missouri
Posts: 2,408
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
The Fuddle is in This story is somewhat lengthy. If you want a good read, go ahead. If you're a lazy-***, leave now..... So onto the story!
Well I'd gotten my Fuddle 3400 2.2 delievered probably a month ago, but then things got hectic right as I was packing to leave for college and such. The weeks rolled by and last night a friend said to me, "Let's put in your converter tomorrow!", so we did it today. Installation of the converter took about 5 1/2 hours in my garage with all the necessary tools and a tranny jack, etc. That includes about a half hour to eat and some time of just messing around. We then installed the tranny cooler as well (more on that in a bit).
I took it for a small spin down my street to get used to it. It's loose with my 2.73s, but nice. I can start moving at a decent pace by 2000 rpms and getting ahead of traffic's pace at about 2500-2700. My buds wanted me to hammer it from a dead stop right in front of my house, so who was I to deny their request?
Took the traction control off, let off the brake, and slammed the gas to the floor. Instantly, it jumps to around 3500 and climbs like a rocket as I stand still and the rear tires scream for mercy. 
I let off right before I hit 6k rpms and left a good 10 feet of rubber as I trailed off. WOOT! We cleaned up the garage and took it for another spin to test her out. This time, however, the car was being picky and definitely showed me that she needs a tune. It didn't want to shift gears and would stay in second as the revs climbed. I was doing 30 mph at 2k rpms and at 50 I was over 3k. It wouldn't shift and felt very sluggish when I hammered it a couple times. I went home, jumped in the shower (got pretty dirty during the course of the installation) and came back out to the car. I checked the tranny fluid and added another half quart, then headed back for the dorm. This time she was doing great. Got moving good by 2500, shifted into second and dropped down to 2000, then cruised into 3rd and achieved lockup at around 40 mph, where I would shift into OD and let my revs take a break. 
On the highway, she was great: mellowing along at 60 at around 1500 and cruising at 80 right at my normal 2000 rpms. Very cool indeed. Watched my coolant temps and they were staying around the normal 190-200.
I got back to campus and gave my best friends/roomates (2 other LS1 Camaro drivers) a ride. Pulled into an empty parking lot and I can stall it right up to around 3200-3400 without breaking them loose. I flashed it from idle and feathered it out as the tires ripped and clawed away, desperately searching for any meager hint of traction. I let out a bit (maybe half throttle) as I went the length of the parking lot. We circled back around to look at my marks. They began heavy and kept going...... and going.... and.. Holy Hell.... kept going! "Surely I didn't spin them for that long, did I Billy?" "Yeah man! Those are your marks all the way down there!" I'd been spinning the Fuzion ZRi tires and left VERY distinct black strips for a good 200 feet! WOW! Some guy in the parking lot wanted a race, but I told him I'd take a rain check until I got the bugs tuned out of the system. The shift extension is great on this thing! When I floor it, it of course jumps to around 3400-3500, then screams (quicker than before) to redline, where it shifts to second and drops down to only 4800-4900 rpms! Now that's what I call staying in the powerband.
Made a trip down the block to the gas station to fill her up. Suddenly my friend pointed out that my "Low Oil" light was on. WHATTT? So I bought another quart inside and poured it in. I slightly panicked as I thought that I might be leaking oil from somewhere or that I was burning it up. But come to think of it, I am driving an LS1 and it is indeed time for an oil change, so it's likely just the standard burning oil problem of our beloved 346 engines. They may be touched by the hand of God, but they've got an appetite for that stuff, don't they? Anyways, I'm back in the dorm and I want to go drive it some more. I really need to pick up a Trans Temp gauge because I'm worried to death that I'm somehow frying my tranny (I worry too much, don't I? ) It would put me at ease to know that my tranny is still running cool.
The only thing that I am unhappy with as far as the installation goes was the tranny cooler. It's actually just chilling (no pun intended) in front of my radiator at the moment, unattached by the little zip-tie things. Actually, they're not really zip-ties at all. They're more of a pointed and ribbed plastic strap with a wide and flat end on them. Then after you put that through the holes on the cooler and poke them through the radiator slots, you slide another flat end over the tip and cut off the excess tie. However, the postion of the fans makes it very hard to do. You have to poke it through the front of the radiator in such a way that it will come out right by the fan blades. You then have to reach behind the fans, then through them, and put the second side of the tie on as you cut the rest off. Easily said, but seemed damn near impossible to do tonight. I will likely do it tomorrow afternoon after classes, but for now it's resting on the little support down there.
I'd like to give props to Fuddle for being an amazing company to deal with. John is a truly great guy and he's proving this time after time with their great converters as sales climb. The converter works amazing: hits hard, will roast the tires at will, and pulls like a raped ape. Although I may need Nittos very soon...... All in all, I'm glad I spent the money on it. Great A4 mod and amazing bang for the buck. I'll get used to the feel of it and I'm going to try to learn to launch it without leaving black dust everywhere. Then it's time for the track! 
Anyways, thanks for reading and if you have any questions about either Fuddle or my converter, feel free to PM me. Goodnight all.
Cliff notes: I read all of your damn posts, so why don't you just sit down and take a little time to read mine?
Well I'd gotten my Fuddle 3400 2.2 delievered probably a month ago, but then things got hectic right as I was packing to leave for college and such. The weeks rolled by and last night a friend said to me, "Let's put in your converter tomorrow!", so we did it today. Installation of the converter took about 5 1/2 hours in my garage with all the necessary tools and a tranny jack, etc. That includes about a half hour to eat and some time of just messing around. We then installed the tranny cooler as well (more on that in a bit).
I took it for a small spin down my street to get used to it. It's loose with my 2.73s, but nice. I can start moving at a decent pace by 2000 rpms and getting ahead of traffic's pace at about 2500-2700. My buds wanted me to hammer it from a dead stop right in front of my house, so who was I to deny their request?
Took the traction control off, let off the brake, and slammed the gas to the floor. Instantly, it jumps to around 3500 and climbs like a rocket as I stand still and the rear tires scream for mercy. I let off right before I hit 6k rpms and left a good 10 feet of rubber as I trailed off. WOOT! We cleaned up the garage and took it for another spin to test her out. This time, however, the car was being picky and definitely showed me that she needs a tune. It didn't want to shift gears and would stay in second as the revs climbed. I was doing 30 mph at 2k rpms and at 50 I was over 3k. It wouldn't shift and felt very sluggish when I hammered it a couple times. I went home, jumped in the shower (got pretty dirty during the course of the installation) and came back out to the car. I checked the tranny fluid and added another half quart, then headed back for the dorm. This time she was doing great. Got moving good by 2500, shifted into second and dropped down to 2000, then cruised into 3rd and achieved lockup at around 40 mph, where I would shift into OD and let my revs take a break. On the highway, she was great: mellowing along at 60 at around 1500 and cruising at 80 right at my normal 2000 rpms. Very cool indeed. Watched my coolant temps and they were staying around the normal 190-200. I got back to campus and gave my best friends/roomates (2 other LS1 Camaro drivers) a ride. Pulled into an empty parking lot and I can stall it right up to around 3200-3400 without breaking them loose. I flashed it from idle and feathered it out as the tires ripped and clawed away, desperately searching for any meager hint of traction. I let out a bit (maybe half throttle) as I went the length of the parking lot. We circled back around to look at my marks. They began heavy and kept going...... and going.... and.. Holy Hell.... kept going! "Surely I didn't spin them for that long, did I Billy?" "Yeah man! Those are your marks all the way down there!" I'd been spinning the Fuzion ZRi tires and left VERY distinct black strips for a good 200 feet! WOW! Some guy in the parking lot wanted a race, but I told him I'd take a rain check until I got the bugs tuned out of the system. The shift extension is great on this thing! When I floor it, it of course jumps to around 3400-3500, then screams (quicker than before) to redline, where it shifts to second and drops down to only 4800-4900 rpms! Now that's what I call staying in the powerband.
Made a trip down the block to the gas station to fill her up. Suddenly my friend pointed out that my "Low Oil" light was on. WHATTT? So I bought another quart inside and poured it in. I slightly panicked as I thought that I might be leaking oil from somewhere or that I was burning it up. But come to think of it, I am driving an LS1 and it is indeed time for an oil change, so it's likely just the standard burning oil problem of our beloved 346 engines. They may be touched by the hand of God, but they've got an appetite for that stuff, don't they? Anyways, I'm back in the dorm and I want to go drive it some more. I really need to pick up a Trans Temp gauge because I'm worried to death that I'm somehow frying my tranny (I worry too much, don't I?
) It would put me at ease to know that my tranny is still running cool. The only thing that I am unhappy with as far as the installation goes was the tranny cooler. It's actually just chilling (no pun intended) in front of my radiator at the moment, unattached by the little zip-tie things. Actually, they're not really zip-ties at all. They're more of a pointed and ribbed plastic strap with a wide and flat end on them. Then after you put that through the holes on the cooler and poke them through the radiator slots, you slide another flat end over the tip and cut off the excess tie. However, the postion of the fans makes it very hard to do. You have to poke it through the front of the radiator in such a way that it will come out right by the fan blades. You then have to reach behind the fans, then through them, and put the second side of the tie on as you cut the rest off. Easily said, but seemed damn near impossible to do tonight. I will likely do it tomorrow afternoon after classes, but for now it's resting on the little support down there.
I'd like to give props to Fuddle for being an amazing company to deal with. John is a truly great guy and he's proving this time after time with their great converters as sales climb. The converter works amazing: hits hard, will roast the tires at will, and pulls like a raped ape. Although I may need Nittos very soon......
All in all, I'm glad I spent the money on it. Great A4 mod and amazing bang for the buck. I'll get used to the feel of it and I'm going to try to learn to launch it without leaving black dust everywhere. Then it's time for the track! Anyways, thanks for reading and if you have any questions about either Fuddle or my converter, feel free to PM me. Goodnight all.Cliff notes: I read all of your damn posts, so why don't you just sit down and take a little time to read mine?
09-12-2005, 07:58 AM
#2
11 Second Club
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Camp Lejeune, NC
Posts: 332
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I got a fuddle 3600 I have same gears as you and you took all the words outta my mouth mine does the exact same thing it is 1 helluva monster, GREAT JOB THERE FUDDLE!!!
09-12-2005, 09:29 AM
#4
Sold The Fun Stuff :(
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 2,371
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I have to say that...
IT'S ABOUT DAMN TIME! I've been following your progress on this decision. I feel like you had alot of the same concerns I did when you were making this decision. I'm glad to hear you're happy with your purchase. Converter cars really are a blast to drive. I've got a few buddies who swear by manuals, but they secretly admit to loving to ride in and/or drive my stalled car. Enjoy it, and go ahead and throw in a trans temp gauge. Easy to wire up and install, and the peace of mind is priceless.
IT'S ABOUT DAMN TIME!
I've been following your progress on this decision. I feel like you had alot of the same concerns I did when you were making this decision. I'm glad to hear you're happy with your purchase. Converter cars really are a blast to drive. I've got a few buddies who swear by manuals, but they secretly admit to loving to ride in and/or drive my stalled car. Enjoy it, and go ahead and throw in a trans temp gauge. Easy to wire up and install, and the peace of mind is priceless.
09-12-2005, 11:37 AM
#5
TECH Addict
Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Missouri
Posts: 2,408
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by josh99ta
I have to say that...
IT'S ABOUT DAMN TIME! I've been following your progress on this decision. I feel like you had alot of the same concerns I did when you were making this decision. I'm glad to hear you're happy with your purchase. Converter cars really are a blast to drive. I've got a few buddies who swear by manuals, but they secretly admit to loving to ride in and/or drive my stalled car. Enjoy it, and go ahead and throw in a trans temp gauge. Easy to wire up and install, and the peace of mind is priceless.
IT'S ABOUT DAMN TIME!
I've been following your progress on this decision. I feel like you had alot of the same concerns I did when you were making this decision. I'm glad to hear you're happy with your purchase. Converter cars really are a blast to drive. I've got a few buddies who swear by manuals, but they secretly admit to loving to ride in and/or drive my stalled car. Enjoy it, and go ahead and throw in a trans temp gauge. Easy to wire up and install, and the peace of mind is priceless.
Yup, it took me a while. I do agree that we had the same concerns about converters, and I'm also glad that I chose what I did. And yes, the trans temp gauge will be my next mod. Last edited by Scotty-Z; 09-12-2005 at 12:49 PM.
09-12-2005, 11:53 AM
#6
Sold The Fun Stuff :(
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 2,371
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
And not to mention the extra exhaust volume from the higher RPMs just getting around town are fun at times and especially helpful at getting attention from other automotive enthusiasts and some of the cooler females out there as well.
Trending Topics
09-12-2005, 12:53 PM
#9
TECH Addict
Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Missouri
Posts: 2,408
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by gator's 99TA
good to see some feedback. i would like to see some track times with these fuddle convertors though.
But when I get some good traction, LCAs, and learn to launch it right, I'll be hoping for some low-mid 12s.
09-12-2005, 01:03 PM
#10
TECH Enthusiast
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Manhattan, NY
Posts: 580
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by ponyeater01LS1
I got a fuddle 3600 I have same gears as you and you took all the words outta my mouth mine does the exact same thing it is 1 helluva monster, GREAT JOB THERE FUDDLE!!!
i'm sitting here reading this, and i remember how i was sitting here and reading this type of stuff about 6 months ago.. and i had the feeling of "damn, i want this!"... now i'm like "yeah.. heh.. i have this! yeehaw"
mine's 3600 / 1.8STR
i love it
oh, and you'll get used to looseness of the converter very fast
honestly, at this point, i can't even remember how the hell it felt with a stock converter. it just feels "right" this way.
You get used to everything.
09-12-2005, 01:08 PM
#11
TECH Addict
Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Missouri
Posts: 2,408
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by firechicken2k
heh
i'm sitting here reading this, and i remember how i was sitting here and reading this type of stuff about 6 months ago.. and i had the feeling of "damn, i want this!"... now i'm like "yeah.. heh.. i have this! yeehaw"
mine's 3600 / 1.8STR
i love it
oh, and you'll get used to looseness of the converter very fast
honestly, at this point, i can't even remember how the hell it felt with a stock converter. it just feels "right" this way.
You get used to everything.
i'm sitting here reading this, and i remember how i was sitting here and reading this type of stuff about 6 months ago.. and i had the feeling of "damn, i want this!"... now i'm like "yeah.. heh.. i have this! yeehaw"
mine's 3600 / 1.8STR
i love it
oh, and you'll get used to looseness of the converter very fast
honestly, at this point, i can't even remember how the hell it felt with a stock converter. it just feels "right" this way.
You get used to everything.
I'd get under the car today and hook up the rest of that tranny cooler, but it's hot as hell out right now.
09-13-2005, 07:50 AM
#12
11 Second Club
iTrader: (5)
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 553
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I can't wait to get mine in (According to fedex it should be delivered today!). I just need to figure out where to take it since I'm a little concerned about doing the install myself.
09-13-2005, 09:40 AM
#13
11 Second Club
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Camp Lejeune, NC
Posts: 332
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I can't wait to get mine in (According to fedex it should be delivered today!). I just need to figure out where to take it since I'm a little concerned about doing the install myself
Its easy man I did mine with 2 other buddies and none of us knew what was going on but we did it, there is a step by step instruction somewhere on this site that tells you litterally bolt by bolt how to do it.
Its easy man I did mine with 2 other buddies and none of us knew what was going on but we did it, there is a step by step instruction somewhere on this site that tells you litterally bolt by bolt how to do it.
09-13-2005, 10:07 AM
#14
11 Second Club
iTrader: (5)
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 553
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by ponyeater01LS1
I can't wait to get mine in (According to fedex it should be delivered today!). I just need to figure out where to take it since I'm a little concerned about doing the install myself
Its easy man I did mine with 2 other buddies and none of us knew what was going on but we did it, there is a step by step instruction somewhere on this site that tells you litterally bolt by bolt how to do it.
Its easy man I did mine with 2 other buddies and none of us knew what was going on but we did it, there is a step by step instruction somewhere on this site that tells you litterally bolt by bolt how to do it.
09-13-2005, 10:11 AM
#15
11 Second Club
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Camp Lejeune, NC
Posts: 332
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
well ur gonna need room and alot of rags and a tranny jack. and of course 4 jack stands. paying to have it done in my mind is a waste i'll either learn how to do it or f-ck it up trying and then refix it ha ha it is an easy job though if u have the plase to do it
09-13-2005, 10:59 AM
#16
On The Tree
iTrader: (2)
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: rgv, tx
Posts: 188
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
sounds good, i should have my 4000 2.4str in by the end of this week and hopefully will be going in during the weekend...some nittos or bfg dr's are to be coming in soon too
09-13-2005, 11:14 AM
#17
12 Second Club
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Washington State
Posts: 862
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Nice, I just put in the Fuddle 3400 2.1 STR about 5 weeks ago. Made 3 trips to track to get new times. Best before stall was 13.01, new best 12.696. When temps drop times should too, my best 60' before the fuddle was 1.891(was not norm, 1.93-95's were norm), my new best is 1.704 and runs in low 1.7's all day long.
09-13-2005, 12:46 PM
#18
11 Second Club
iTrader: (5)
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 553
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by ponyeater01LS1
well ur gonna need room and alot of rags and a tranny jack. and of course 4 jack stands. paying to have it done in my mind is a waste i'll either learn how to do it or f-ck it up trying and then refix it ha ha it is an easy job though if u have the plase to do it
09-13-2005, 01:59 PM
#19
11 Second Club
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Camp Lejeune, NC
Posts: 332
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
i think u can buy an attachment for a normal jack or just go get you a good tranny jack they look just like a floor jack but it has adjustable thingys that hold the tranny pan and u just jack it up and lower it out. it is a must to do if not ur gonna need alot of muscle to get it down and out carefully. or if u know some1 with a motorcycle or atv jack those work too.
09-13-2005, 03:18 PM
#20
Staging Lane
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Hot Springs, AR
Posts: 59
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by DanWS6
I agree about the paying part, I can buy my own tools for the cost of having someone else do it. What exactly is different about a tranny jack compared to a normal jack?