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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 03:55 PM
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friend has a 98 ws.6 a4...has some transmission fluid leaking from inbetween the trans and motor which i can only assume would be coming from either the torque converter and/or the front pump...my question to you a4 guys (cause im a m6 guy and dont know much about this perticuler auto trans) whats involved in replacing the front pump/seal in these trans?? i know on the chryslers we work on here at work its a simple replacement which can be done pretty much on the vehicle and on some cars in requires a complete trans rebuild pretty much cause you have to tear the trans down to access it...thanx in advance.
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 07:19 PM
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Remove trans.
Remove TC.
Pull seal from front of trans.
Install new seal.
Check TC snout for wear, pitting, grooving;
if not okay, rub lightly (fine grit) or replace TC.
Install TC.
Install trans.
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 07:52 PM
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I agree w/ joe but one other detail I think he left out is that I would pressure test the converter. At work I use a solid rubber plug and plug the snout on the converter, apply light air pressure, 50-75psi, oh, I have a hole drilled through this rubber plug for air and check the weld seam all the way around the converter.
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 09:41 PM
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Old Sep 30, 2005 | 12:48 AM
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If you pull the front seal, make sure you do not damage the aluminum bushing underneath. Otherwise, you will have to pull the front pump to replace it. I made that mistake and also replaced the front pump oring. After going through all of this, the converter was the problem. It had a hairline fracture in the cover that was causing the leak.
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Old Sep 30, 2005 | 07:19 AM
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thanx guys...when we pull the trans its getting a new converter regardless if its leaking or not..might as well replace it ya know... appreciate the input.
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Old Sep 30, 2005 | 10:30 AM
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Even if it's new, inspect the TC's snout (saves unnecessary work).
Pressure test TC is good idea too, if you can.
Remember to put about 1 QT of ATF in TC before installing.
Installing TC, you must feel 3 clicks otherwise it is not installed
(3 clicks = engagement of snout (drives pump) + stator shaft + turbine shaft).

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Old Sep 30, 2005 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by joecar
Even if it's new, inspect the TC's snout (saves unnecessary work).
Pressure test TC is good idea too, if you can.
Remember to put about 1 QT of ATF in TC before installing.
Installing TC, you must feel 3 clicks otherwise it is not installed
(3 clicks = engagement of snout (drives pump) + stator shaft + turbine shaft).

Cheers
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thanx joe...very helpfull...if i run into any snags ill chime in here for the input.
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Old Oct 2, 2005 | 08:30 PM
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I am going thru the same thing .Put the convertor in a week ago with new front seal ,leaked a little,,pulled it tranny again today put a fresh seal double checked to be the correct one,,put it back together and now it leaks ten times as much.. . I have done at least ten convertor swaps and this is the first time this has happened. Only thing left is the convertor which is a new TCI ..
20 hours of labor in it so far and now I am stuck without a car.
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Old Oct 4, 2005 | 02:05 PM
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Is your TC snout out-of-round, off-center, pitted, worn, grooved, or anything...?
Did the circular tensioning spring pop out of the seal during seal install...?
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