Well i'm doing a Yank soon and i'll be able to tell what kind of improvement I get out of it...

 

well i lost.7 seconds off my ET with my 4000 TC from fuddle, and lost 0.3 mph which is you ask me who cares, i dont see what the big deal is about a high trap speed. look at it this way, if you run a 11.9 @ 121 you would be happy right, but from what your saying if you run a 11.7 @ 116 you would me mad? doesnt make sense to me. You got there faster whats the problem with that?

 

most people arnt able to cut 1.6 60fts on the street to take advantage of "getting their faster and losing mph"

thats a reason how trap speed can become a factor.

 

I know that some people running very well with fuddles. But saying you haven't seen Yank perform is unsupported. Comparing a 3400 Yank to a 4000 Fuddle isn't exactly an even match. Compare the 4000 Fuddle to a Yank YTP 4000. Maybe it will be better, but maybe not. In any case, Fuddle users may not post their times but there seems to be a lot of Yanks on this list:

https://ls1tech.com/forums/drag-racing-results/273788-quickest-stock-internals-list-11-82-bump.html

There is plenty of evidence that Yank performs.

 

Yup, same goes for autocross and other road events. And some people want thier car to be fast on the highway. An efficent 4000 stall makes an A4 competitive on the highway.

 

Because my trap speed is decent right now...and some convertor brands show an increase of MPH and a decrease of ET.....I dont have a drag race only car....I do screw around on the street from a roll...and HP im putting to the ground is a big factor.

 

Directflo Lid, New paper airfilter, Janzter ported TB, Hacked up airbox, Cut EGR tube, stock LS1 intake, March underdrive pulley, Pacesetter longtubes, 3inch Duals, 3.73 gears, SFCs, LCAs, minor weight reduction, its a stripper 1998 Formula.

12.2 @ 112 1.83 60` on some ET streets...after tune....

Previously it ran 12.6 @ 110 on nittos with a 1.93 60` before I tuned the car for 3.73s it was wacking the rev limiter for a while on the 2-3shift which is why I think I picked up MPH after the tune.

 

I hope you are seriously joking about this comment, obviously if it is the same car and the same stall/str i will take 121 over 116 anyday, mph is how much hp you are making, that is 50 less hp by putting a converter in, it really doesn't even make sense. Obviously if someone has a turbo on their car and they run a 12.5 at 120 mph they are really losing tractions because the hp is not being put to the ground. If i run 12.00 at 113mph with a 1.6 60 ft yeah i am faster with a lower mph but all the turbo car has to do is get it to the ground and it is a low 11 sec or high 10 sec car. The more mph the more hp the car has so why would you want less So if both 60's are the same for 11.9 @121 and 11.7 at 116 lets see who wins. Bottom line you want to get the lowest 60ft while getting the highest mph from a converter IF this wasn't true you wouldn't even hear the term Efficiency

I am not saying fuddle is not a good converter, just arguing the point of mph

 

what raceweight are you at and get an LS6 intake on that biach...will give at least 1 more mph if not more

 

I had a 3500 TCI and ran 12.10@112 with a 1.71 60'. Sent the stall to TCI and made it a 4000. It ran 11.71@115 with a 1.58 60'.

 

call up each company and talk to them about your goals. IMO for the cars in this thread 10 seconds and slower) there isnt a big difference b/w yank and fuddle. go with who you are most comfortable with.

i made a post about my fuddle experience. i had a yank in the car. this is my 10 second 3500 lbs drag radial car with stock heads and a small nitrous shot. i am happy. enough said.

 

Very true.. 3700 lbs cam only car here (ran 11.88 on stock fronts and ET Streets). Do your research and buy the stall that is aimed at your goals.

 

How many of you have had a "street race" that where you got beat off the line (lost traction) and past them up on the big end. I have done this, and if you had a torque converter that had a lot of slip (less mph) you would not be able to catch him on the big end. This is one of the best feelings you can get is when you catch them on the big end. Torque converter efficiency is not to be taken lightly. MPH tells you how good the engine was built, at the least.

 

actually you gained about 0.3 mph with my shitty trans tune and the converter was unlocked the whole time.

 

since when did we add a turbo to this car? your going way outta the picture there. Bottom line is get what you want, we all have seen the gains from it, and im sure there is always someone that is going to take what another person post and bash it, so like i said, get what you feel you are goign to be happy with

 

oops ment to say i gained lol

 

Ill put my PT4000 up against any brand 4000 verter any day. I promise Ill out e.t. and out mph a car with same mods and same weight.