Yank / Fuddle comparison
You can't do that in a meaningful way, since Yank has
about 20+ (?) different LS1 models and every Fuddle
is custom. You'd have to attempt to get two built to
the same nominal spec and line them up. And hardly
anyone pulls a converter, to substitute another just
like it. Unless something was wrong with the first one,
again making the comparison not too sound.
about 20+ (?) different LS1 models and every Fuddle
is custom. You'd have to attempt to get two built to
the same nominal spec and line them up. And hardly
anyone pulls a converter, to substitute another just
like it. Unless something was wrong with the first one,
again making the comparison not too sound.
dont worry guys im the type to tell it like ti is..and my cousin has a 99 z28 vert. with lts true duals and a lid and a tune with a ss3400 and for the mods he has ran an 8.08@86 in the 1\8mile with some mt drag radials.. i was suprised! runs very good for what it is and 86mph! wow.. i have the mods in sig..and im goin with a fuddle 3200 with a 2.2str on some 315 bfgs and as soon as i race him and go to the track ill let everyone know how i feel about the yank vs. fuddle thang..
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My guesses as to what will happen...
That Fuddle will hit harder than the Yank off the line but the Yank will have the legs at the end. Its not because of any design defect or whatever, but purely because you have requested a launch-style converter which, to achieve that STR and stall RPM, may have less positive blade angles on the primary.
But the again, it depends on the final gear ratio you and your buddy have. It wont be a fair comparison unless you both are running identical setups, with similar stall RPM and STR.
I dont think you need that wide a tyre too. It will cost you MPH in the end. A set of MT ET STreet Radials 235/60/15 is all you need.
That Fuddle will hit harder than the Yank off the line but the Yank will have the legs at the end. Its not because of any design defect or whatever, but purely because you have requested a launch-style converter which, to achieve that STR and stall RPM, may have less positive blade angles on the primary.
But the again, it depends on the final gear ratio you and your buddy have. It wont be a fair comparison unless you both are running identical setups, with similar stall RPM and STR.
I dont think you need that wide a tyre too. It will cost you MPH in the end. A set of MT ET STreet Radials 235/60/15 is all you need.
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I see people say this all the time. But I'd consider it
more of a best-case scenario, than a rule. It's hard to
know just what you pay, goes toward. Craftsmanship?
Quality control? Performance? Marketing? You give me
one instance where these proportions are known, and
I'll consider it educational.
more of a best-case scenario, than a rule. It's hard to
know just what you pay, goes toward. Craftsmanship?
Quality control? Performance? Marketing? You give me
one instance where these proportions are known, and
I'll consider it educational.
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Originally Posted by 1_Bad_LS1
It's this simple...
You get what you pay for...
You get what you pay for...
Originally Posted by 1_Bad_LS1
It's this simple...
You get what you pay for...
You get what you pay for...
with fuddle, you pay for a great converter with a great warranty and customer service....and that's all.
at yank you pay for a great converter, a fair warranty, mediocre customer service and a whole lot of advertising/marketing.
I'll just take the great converter....hold the bullshit, please!
Originally Posted by sr71
this is so true...
with fuddle, you pay for a great converter with a great warranty and customer service....and that's all.
at yank you pay for a great converter, a fair warranty, mediocre customer service and a whole lot of advertising/marketing.
I'll just take the great converter....hold the bullshit, please!
with fuddle, you pay for a great converter with a great warranty and customer service....and that's all.
at yank you pay for a great converter, a fair warranty, mediocre customer service and a whole lot of advertising/marketing.
I'll just take the great converter....hold the bullshit, please!
I'm tired of all this "Yank is king and anything else is crap" mentality of many of the Yank owners.
Originally Posted by MNR-0
My guesses as to what will happen...
That Fuddle will hit harder than the Yank off the line but the Yank will have the legs at the end. Its not because of any design defect or whatever, but purely because you have requested a launch-style converter which, to achieve that STR and stall RPM, may have less positive blade angles on the primary.
But the again, it depends on the final gear ratio you and your buddy have. It wont be a fair comparison unless you both are running identical setups, with similar stall RPM and STR.
I dont think you need that wide a tyre too. It will cost you MPH in the end. A set of MT ET STreet Radials 235/60/15 is all you need.
That Fuddle will hit harder than the Yank off the line but the Yank will have the legs at the end. Its not because of any design defect or whatever, but purely because you have requested a launch-style converter which, to achieve that STR and stall RPM, may have less positive blade angles on the primary.
But the again, it depends on the final gear ratio you and your buddy have. It wont be a fair comparison unless you both are running identical setups, with similar stall RPM and STR.
I dont think you need that wide a tyre too. It will cost you MPH in the end. A set of MT ET STreet Radials 235/60/15 is all you need.
well i think we could have the same rwhp.. and we have the same gears and his car is heavier...yes he has smaller tires than mine and his stall is the ss3400 str is 2.5 and mine is the fuddle 3200 with a 2.2str.. so i think its a fair comparo...so ill let the times speak for itself!
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Originally Posted by Scotty-Z
Exactly.
I'm tired of all this "Yank is king and anything else is crap" mentality of many of the Yank owners.
I'm tired of all this "Yank is king and anything else is crap" mentality of many of the Yank owners.
Originally Posted by jimmyblue
I see people say this all the time. But I'd consider it
more of a best-case scenario, than a rule. It's hard to
know just what you pay, goes toward. Craftsmanship?
Quality control? Performance? Marketing? You give me
one instance where these proportions are known, and
I'll consider it educational.
more of a best-case scenario, than a rule. It's hard to
know just what you pay, goes toward. Craftsmanship?
Quality control? Performance? Marketing? You give me
one instance where these proportions are known, and
I'll consider it educational.
A well-advertised more expensive product produced with more overhead doesn't make a better product in terms of quality, reliability, and performance.
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Originally Posted by slimcracka
well i think we could have the same rwhp.. and we have the same gears and his car is heavier...yes he has smaller tires than mine and his stall is the ss3400 str is 2.5 and mine is the fuddle 3200 with a 2.2str.. so i think its a fair comparo...so ill let the times speak for itself!
Whatever the results, post em but expect theories from others no matter what happens.
As for quality, getting what you pay for, blah, blah, blah... Whatever...
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Hey John, Why doesn't your web site have pictures of your torque converters? You bloviate about how great you and your converters are but no pictures!! Why? Show us why your product is better. Remember , a picture is worth a thousand words good or bad.
Originally Posted by fl7464
Hey John, Why doesn't your web site have pictures of your torque converters? You bloviate about how great you and your converters are but no pictures!! Why? Show us why your product is better. Remember , a picture is worth a thousand words good or bad.
What's the rationale of that argument?
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Originally Posted by fl7464
Hey John, Why doesn't your web site have pictures of your torque converters? You bloviate about how great you and your converters are but no pictures!! Why? Show us why your product is better. Remember , a picture is worth a thousand words good or bad.
Wow Your first post and you're diss'ing people.
or did you just register under a different name to holler through a locked door, to hide your identity
And imagine that...... just registered today You aint yanking us around now, are you??? 
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I'll be honest I have no experiance with Fuddle.
But I hold no brand loyalty to anyone, it's not as if they pay me money at all
All I can say is I have spoken with Yank and they are very very helpful and on the basis of this plus the technical info the offer to the public I will certainly be buying a converter from them (once I figure out the cheapest way of getting from US to the UK).
If anyones interested they should take a look at Yanks website, it has a very good "The Truth" section which is worth reading as is their FAQ section. There's a link in my sig if you're interested.
But I hold no brand loyalty to anyone, it's not as if they pay me money at all
All I can say is I have spoken with Yank and they are very very helpful and on the basis of this plus the technical info the offer to the public I will certainly be buying a converter from them (once I figure out the cheapest way of getting from US to the UK).
If anyones interested they should take a look at Yanks website, it has a very good "The Truth" section which is worth reading as is their FAQ section. There's a link in my sig if you're interested.
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Originally Posted by 300bhp/ton
I'll be honest I have no experiance with Fuddle.
But I hold no brand loyalty to anyone, it's not as if they pay me money at all
All I can say is I have spoken with Yank and they are very very helpful and on the basis of this plus the technical info the offer to the public I will certainly be buying a converter from them (once I figure out the cheapest way of getting from US to the UK).
If anyones interested they should take a look at Yanks website, it has a very good "The Truth" section which is worth reading as is their FAQ section. There's a link in my sig if you're interested.
But I hold no brand loyalty to anyone, it's not as if they pay me money at all
All I can say is I have spoken with Yank and they are very very helpful and on the basis of this plus the technical info the offer to the public I will certainly be buying a converter from them (once I figure out the cheapest way of getting from US to the UK).
If anyones interested they should take a look at Yanks website, it has a very good "The Truth" section which is worth reading as is their FAQ section. There's a link in my sig if you're interested.
I will let you know my thoughts soon.