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Okay, here goes nothing; and please do not bother posting if you guys from Dallas area plan to say something smart/rude...I would rather get some posts from people trying to help, or from some that feel my pain.
I paid $700 for a 4L60E 1st-time rebuild, because I am only pushing around 400 HP, and this was a quick fix aside from paying for a T400 so I could get back into racing. A friend of mine also got his rebuilt there, and it has broken 3 times so the guy obviously is not doing something right or is only trying to make money off people. (I'll just say it's Bill's transmissions in Kennedale, Texas!
) Well, mine has seen failure after 1, yes, 1 run at the track. After that I have had problems with it and it red-lines/peggs EVERY TIME I ran it down the track, along with overheating after 1 run! (Yes, I already have a supercooler.) So this last Sunday I broke it for good, the car does not even drive now.
I do not understand how people can be so crooked and not do quality work on transmissions. I KNOW our 4L60Es are not the best, but it is not like I am pushing 500-600 HP, you know? I feel at a loss, like I cannot trust anyone because the next guy and the next guy SAYS they know what they are doing but it seems like no one does or they do not care about you doing well racing or being somebody big. Some of us are in this for a little more than fun, you know? It is truly sad because in my 1 year of racing it seems like everyone is here to knock someone else out of racing, because they want to be better. Why is this the case when we all share a common ground and love what our engines can do?? Okay, this is really just about the tranny, but at least I said how I feel. Good for me...
I paid $700 for a 4L60E 1st-time rebuild, because I am only pushing around 400 HP, and this was a quick fix aside from paying for a T400 so I could get back into racing. A friend of mine also got his rebuilt there, and it has broken 3 times so the guy obviously is not doing something right or is only trying to make money off people. (I'll just say it's Bill's transmissions in Kennedale, Texas!
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I do not understand how people can be so crooked and not do quality work on transmissions. I KNOW our 4L60Es are not the best, but it is not like I am pushing 500-600 HP, you know? I feel at a loss, like I cannot trust anyone because the next guy and the next guy SAYS they know what they are doing but it seems like no one does or they do not care about you doing well racing or being somebody big. Some of us are in this for a little more than fun, you know? It is truly sad because in my 1 year of racing it seems like everyone is here to knock someone else out of racing, because they want to be better. Why is this the case when we all share a common ground and love what our engines can do?? Okay, this is really just about the tranny, but at least I said how I feel. Good for me...
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First of all if you paid $700 for a rebuild you wasted your money. The only way a 4l60e even has a chance of lasting with 400hp (is that motor hp or rwhp?) would be a built one which will cost you anywhere from $1700-$2400.
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Originally Posted by BAIN
First of all if you paid $700 for a rebuild you wasted your money. The only way a 4l60e even has a chance of lasting with 400hp (is that motor hp or rwhp?) would be a built one which will cost you anywhere from $1700-$2400.
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were in Denton Texas, right next to the red river....700.00 wouldn't pay for the parts in a performance build.....I see this everytime someone plays the level game why not just get a built transmisssion and be done with it. I've never been able to say this will hold 400 hp and that will hold 500hp...find the weak link fix it and go to the next...If you get a chance tomorrow drop me a line or give us a call we'll try to help you...Thanks for listening hope this helps ...Dave
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I can feel your pain. I went through several "fully built" 4L60E transmissions in my car before I found Dave and Rock-On Transmissions. I've given it hell at the track and on the street and nothing seems to bother it. I drove the car to Fort Worth yesterday......Love that overdrive.
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Originally Posted by BAIN
First of all if you paid $700 for a rebuild you wasted your money. The only way a 4l60e even has a chance of lasting with 400hp (is that motor hp or rwhp?) would be a built one which will cost you anywhere from $1700-$2400.
FLT performance pump
FLT sleeved input drum
8 B/W high-energy clutches in 3-4 pack
FLT beast shell w/bearing
B/W 29 element sprag
4L65 low roller clutch
Transgo HD-2 shift kit
Corvette Servo
Wide 2-4 band
Bushing kit
All solenoids
Internal wire harness
Spacer plate
B/W clutches
Seal & gasket kit
Filter
Updated accumulator pistons
Set end play to performance specs
Call Doug Ludwig or Chuck Johnson today at 630-350-7776 for more information.www.finishlinetrans.com
Continental U.S. residents will receive free shipping for all retail sales on transmissions purchased during the month of February.
Good luck.....Hope this helps.
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I paid $700 for mine, but it was done by a friend
I would have gotten Rock-on but shipping to Hawaii is a bitch.
So far it held 11.3's @ 119 with no problem with a Yank SS 4000 , I tried a 150, 100, even went down to 75 shot and 2nd to 3rd just can't hold![Bang Head](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_banghead.gif)
But on the 150 shot it still ran 10.7 @126 in sig, not bad for $700
Since you right there in Texas, go get a Rock-On trans and be done with it
I just put a pretty fresh $700 trans and a Fuddle 3400, I'll see if it can hold this Saturday
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I would have gotten Rock-on but shipping to Hawaii is a bitch.
So far it held 11.3's @ 119 with no problem with a Yank SS 4000 , I tried a 150, 100, even went down to 75 shot and 2nd to 3rd just can't hold
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But on the 150 shot it still ran 10.7 @126 in sig, not bad for $700
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Since you right there in Texas, go get a Rock-On trans and be done with it
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I just put a pretty fresh $700 trans and a Fuddle 3400, I'll see if it can hold this Saturday
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Originally Posted by da wrench
Man you got screwed! Dave said it best "700.00 wouldn't pay for the parts in a performance build". Here are a list of quality parts for a rebuilt....
FLT performance pump
FLT sleeved input drum
8 B/W high-energy clutches in 3-4 pack
FLT beast shell w/bearing
B/W 29 element sprag
4L65 low roller clutch
Transgo HD-2 shift kit
Corvette Servo
Wide 2-4 band
Bushing kit
All solenoids
Internal wire harness
Spacer plate
B/W clutches
Seal & gasket kit
Filter
Updated accumulator pistons
Set end play to performance specs
Call Doug Ludwig or Chuck Johnson today at 630-350-7776 for more information.www.finishlinetrans.com
Continental U.S. residents will receive free shipping for all retail sales on transmissions purchased during the month of February.
Good luck.....Hope this helps.![Happy](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_stretch.gif)
FLT performance pump
FLT sleeved input drum
8 B/W high-energy clutches in 3-4 pack
FLT beast shell w/bearing
B/W 29 element sprag
4L65 low roller clutch
Transgo HD-2 shift kit
Corvette Servo
Wide 2-4 band
Bushing kit
All solenoids
Internal wire harness
Spacer plate
B/W clutches
Seal & gasket kit
Filter
Updated accumulator pistons
Set end play to performance specs
Call Doug Ludwig or Chuck Johnson today at 630-350-7776 for more information.www.finishlinetrans.com
Continental U.S. residents will receive free shipping for all retail sales on transmissions purchased during the month of February.
Good luck.....Hope this helps.
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Rock-On lvl 4 4l60e__ $1895 (w/vac. mod I think) + s&h
FLP lvl 4 4l60e______ $1970 (w/vac mod.) + s&h
Rossler terminator 4l60e___$2395 (w/o vac. mod) + s&h
Look around at how many FLP lvl 4's have broken on this site.
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Now how in the hell were my #'s off for a built 4l60e??????
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yea mine is holding up fine, including spraying through the shift with a 125 shot, but i am going to use a 175 shot in the next couple of weeks and i will be using a nitrous controller to help with that hp spike on the N20. i just wonder why mine is holding up flawlessly, its done over 20 mid 11 second passes with the juice. And i have around 450rwhp. go figure.
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Originally Posted by BAIN
Who the hell are you to say I got screwed? First of all I said she paid $700 for a stock rebuild that will break again when the money could have been used toward a built tranny. I have a Rock-On 4l60e
Rock-On lvl 4 4l60e__ $1895 (w/vac. mod I think) + s&h
FLP lvl 4 4l60e______ $1970 (w/vac mod.) + s&h
Rossler terminator 4l60e___$2395 (w/o vac. mod) + s&h
Look around at how many FLP lvl 4's have broken on this site.
I heard the 4l65e lvl 5's are doing better but they are $2770 (w/vac. mod)
Now how in the hell were my #'s off for a built 4l60e??????
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Rock-On lvl 4 4l60e__ $1895 (w/vac. mod I think) + s&h
FLP lvl 4 4l60e______ $1970 (w/vac mod.) + s&h
Rossler terminator 4l60e___$2395 (w/o vac. mod) + s&h
Look around at how many FLP lvl 4's have broken on this site.
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Now how in the hell were my #'s off for a built 4l60e??????
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All these issues with 4l60's are exactly why when I made the decision to do a auto swap, Th400 was the way I went. You can spend 50000 rebuilding that 4l60 over and over.. and when it's all said and done, a killer th400 could have been bought for about 1800 bucks, with reverse man valve body, transbrake, everythind needed to take 900+ hp and pass after pass in the single digit's. Do yourself a favor, stop pissing $$ away to the tranny rebuild shops and get a th400, if you want to race, put a race worthy transmission in. And if you say a th400 is not what you want because you won't have overdrive, then you probably shouldn't be racing the car.
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Originally Posted by da wrench
First of all I did not say you got screwed. I used your quote and agreed with you that fasttagurl could of made a better choice. Also I agreed with DAVES quote"700.00 wouldn't pay for the parts in a performance build". All I did was post a list of good parts to be used in a hp rebuilt. I did not bash rock on and if you can read you will see that. Second of all FLT didn't deserve your negative feed back. We all know the problems with 4l60e's and sometimes things happen. And i quote "find the weak link fix it and go to the next..."Thanks Dave for honest facts!!!
Sorry I misinterpreted you quoting me as saying I got screwed with the price range for a built 4l60e.
As for the negative feedback on FLP....I never bashed them really I said to do a search on their lvl 4 tranny and see for yourself. I know several people that have had them
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